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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted 02:53, 5 March 2008.

List of passengers onboard RMS Titanic edit

Why not, its a great list, thoroughly cited and referenced by the most comprehensive Titanic site around, encyclopedia titanica. Lets get this featured --Hadseys ChatContribs 00:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment I have admittedly been quite lazy about updating this, but now that it's being nominated for featured list, I think I'll get the ball rolling and finish up with the second and third class passengers. Morhange (talk) 05:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The lead says it's a "work-in-progress list" and according to my count, there are about 800 names on the list. However, were there not well over 2000 passengers, so is it not an incomplete list? Work on it should be completed, then it can be renominated. A suggestion: there should be an easier way to distinguish who survived and who didn't. So perhaps you should have a survivors table and a perished table in each section. -- Scorpion0422 06:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "Final voyage" or "maiden voyage"?
  • the lead needs expanding
  • "Numbers 324, 325 and 333 were unused." why? Reference?
  • Guarantee Group and band members sentence needs referencing.
  • is the body number an officially used number?
  • The use of just a lifeboat column makes it sound like they rowed all the way to America, but weren't they picked up by a rescue ship?
  • Couldn't the column for Lifeboat be renamed, and used also for the rescue/body recovery ships?
  • "and chauffeur, Mr. George Swane", "and cook, Miss Amelia Mary "Mildred" Brown" - Surely "Mr. George Swane, and chauffeur", "Miss Amelia Mary "Mildred" Brown, and cook"
  • Why aren't the names and ages of the chauffeurs, cooks and maids given?
  • Echoing Scorpion's comments, the list is a work-in-progress and incomplete. Once it is complete, it's going to be enormously long. Can't it be separated into "List of first-class passengers onboard RMS Titanic", "List of second-class passengers onboard RMS Titanic" etc?
  • It also could do with being separated by initial letter, so A-D, E-H, I-M, etc

That's it for now to get started, but until the list is actually complete, I can only oppose. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • I'll try and answer some of these as best I can. The body numbers are officially used numbers by the rescue ships, and I can't find a reason why they skipped those numbers, only that there is no entry for any of them. Possibly there is a gap between numbers because body 323 was picked up by a different ship than body 326, and they left gaps in case additional bodies were found. I added info regarding the band/guarantee group, as well as info about the Carpathia to the opening paragraph. As for George Swane, Mildred Brown, etc, they were the servants. They were traveling along with their employers, and most passenger lists include them with the employers (ie Col Gracie's book, the Women and Children First book, etc) instead of individually, because they traveled on the same ticket.Morhange (talk) 04:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additional

  • Footnotes and references should be separated.
  • References [5], [6], [8]—[14] are irrelelvant to the list.
  • Ref [15] needs referencing

-- Matthew | talk | Contribs 06:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose, get it finished before nominating. Just a tip, though - sort the "ands" by their last name too. Note that you don't need to have the entry actually look like how it's sorting. There are ways to hide the sort key. But yeah, first finish it. --Golbez (talk) 07:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Definitely a topic worthy of a featured list, but since it's unfinished, it's not quite ready. I hope to see it finished and renominated soon, though. Drewcifer (talk) 08:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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