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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 14:51, 2 July 2010 [1].

List of number-one singles from the 1970s (UK) edit

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Nominator(s): Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because over the past month it has been extensively re-written from this to its present form. The expansion started when I was background reading for (recent FL) List of Record Mirror number-one singles and I just got a bit too involved so here I am again. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 10:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support.Oppose A few problems need to be resolved:

Resolved comments from Ruslik_Zero 18:10, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
#The UK Singles Chart is a weekly record chart. In the 1970s, it was compiled each week... There is no need to repeat two times that it is a weekly chart.
  1. Removed first instance. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Prior to 1969 many newspapers commissioned their own music charts but, on 15 February 1969, the BMRB was commissioned I do not like two "commissioned" in one sentence.
    Yes, the first instance was incorrect. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  3. The chart was published weekly with a two-week break at Christmas; This repeats what was already said in the first two sentences.
    Whoops, sorry about that. Fixed, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  4. Thirteen records were released and sold one-million copies within the decade and "Mull of Kintyre" became the first ever single to sell over two-million copies. Do you mean "over one-million copies"? It is unlikely that they sold exactly one million. In addition, does these thirteen include "Mull of Kintyre"?
    Done, and yes it does. Clarified slightly by putting "also". Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  5. Were all these thirteen records number-one singles?
    Yes they were. And I believe per WP:LEAD is summarises the "#Million-selling and platinum records" section. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  6. "Mull of Kintyre" was the biggest selling song of the decade This repeats the previous sentence.
    Nor true. It was the first to sell >2m but that does not necessarily mean that it was the best seller of the decade.
  7. In the 'Million-selling and platinum records' section. Are "Merry Xmas Everybody" and "Another Brick in the Wall (Part II)" same "two number-one songs from the 1970s were classified as platinum in the subsequent decade"?
    Yes, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ruslik_Zero 15:49, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, for your comments. Much appreciated. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - the images need to be placed better. On my monitor I have to scroll down through nearly three screens' worth of blank white space with images at the right before I get to the first table -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Out of interest what resolution are you running and do you the same problem with this? The table is obviously a bit too wide for your monitor but I cannot tell by how much. I've forced some wrapping which has taken quite a bit off the width but I don't know if it is enough for you. Unfortunately this is also one of the adverse affects that increasing thumbnail sizes would have. Can you let me know if it is better now or, roughly, how much is left to go. Thanks, Rambo's Revenge (talk) 16:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    On the 2000s list I only get a small whitespace before the 2009 table, the rest is OK. On this list the whitespace is now down to about 2.5 screens' worth. Apparently (someone more knowledgable than me tells me) my resolution is 1280 x 1024 pixels, hope that means something :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay I've reduced the image sizes. Is it any better? I must say this problem suprises me as the table wraps on my computer until the window is very thin. Do you have quite a narrow monitor? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    My monitor's approximately 34cm wide. Is that narrow? I don't know..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:48, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you measuring diagonally? If so, that would be about 13 inches, which is pretty narrow. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    No, side to side -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Hmm, in that case it seems your monitor is smaller than any of those listed at viewable image size. See this for an idea of the sizes people mostly use. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 07:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It's 17" diagonally. Blame work, they gave it to me :-) But if I've got some sort of freaky-weird non-standard monitor and it displays OK on all normal ones then I guess I support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Wizardman Operation Big Bear 02:38, 23 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
*Comment:
    • "The longest duration of a single at the top spot was 9 weeks and this was achieved on three occasions:" The number can be spelled out. Plus, this can be split (i.e. ...nine weeks. This was achieved...)
    • "The 1970s also saw the formation of the British Phonographic Industry (BPI) who classified the sales of records over certain thresholds:" You use a much more specific date (April 1973) later on; does that work up there too?
    • "after sales from it's re-release were included." Remove apostrophe.

Just fix these and I'll support. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 23:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Opening sentence is a little bit weak. Is there no other really top-level info you could add here to bulk it out a bit? Better?
  • Record Retailer is overlinked in the lead. Done
  • "the full amount of sales figures" is there really a need for "amount of" here?
    Contextually yes, as it was a sample not the full sales figures. Clarified now. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "by phone" "by telephone" Done
  • "sales figures" used three times in two sentences. Done
  • "The longest duration of a single at the top spot " -> "at number one" to avoid quickly repeating "the top spot". Done
  • "were released and sold over" I think "which" (or "that") rather than "and". Done
  • You link £ on its second use. Done
  • Abba image seems to be missing the thumb parameter (at a guess)? Done
  • According to us, "Boney M" is "Boney M."
    Not sure about this. The source gives it without the period as does a chart scan from 1978. I prefer to go with sources rather than Wiki. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually, having looked at the singles and album covers for the band they all have "M." so I guess in this case the official source is overruled. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also "I Love to Love (But My Baby Loves to Dance)" doesn't capitalise the t of To. Done
  • "December, 1963 (Oh, What a Night)" doesn't have a , after December.
    It does in the official source though. What do you suggest? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ernie's The should be a the. Done
  • Hit Me with Your .. not Hit Me With Your... Done
  • "Oh Boy" links to "Oh Boy!".
    Updated link destination, but pipe remains as it was changed stylistically on rerelease - see sources. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check capitalisation of Like to Teach the World to Sing... And Love Me For a Reason. And Cum On Feel the Noize. And The First Cut is the Deepest. I know these redirect adequately but it'd be better to have titles Wikipedia-internally-consistent with their articles.
    Isn't "The First Cut Is the Deepest" instead of "The First Cut is the Deepest" fairly strange by how songs are normally named? I've fixed the others. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Well the album has the track name in ALLCAPS. So I guess Yahoo! music and Last.fm are the next best sources which suggest capital "Is", however they may have just copied the Wiki title. Anyway, changed link in list accordingly. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • We also seem to have a space for T. Rex Done, all spaced.
  • Brotherhood of Man, not Of. Done
  • Floyd's en-dash breaks the year of millionth sale sorting, and why is it an en-dash in any case?
    Um, it isn't an ndash (it's an mdash) and it doesn't break the sorting. For me at least. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As always, thank you for your thorough review. I believe I have addressed you comments with queries mainly about whether we should follow sources or current article names? Rambo's Revenge (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You got yourself a B+, the em-dash kills sorting in Safari. A typical problem for me.... As for the odd capitalisations here and there, my preference would be to make the Wikipedia correct per reliable sources. If that means moving destination pages, then so be it... Happy with everything else... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, moved one page and found good reason to deviate from offical type listing in the other cases. Hopefully it is all sorted now. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 18:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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