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List of members of the 15th National Assembly of Pakistan edit

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Nominator(s): Saqib (talk) 17:45, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets all of the FL criteria and so has great potential to become a Featured List. It has resemblance with List of members of the 14th National Assembly of Pakistan which became a FA couple of years back. This is one of the most important lists in the scope of WikiProject Pakistan. It has good lead and prose and is referenced as per the referencing guidelines. --Saqib (talk) 17:45, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TompaDompa
  1. Images should have WP:ALT text for WP:ACCESSIBILITY reasons.
  2. marked the constitutional transition of power from one democratically-elected government to another for the second time in the history of Pakistan. – It should be mentioned that the first time was after the previous election.
  3. The National Assembly is a democratically elected body consisting of 342 members – The discrepancy between this number and the 329 members in the list should be explained in detail.
  4. There are a few discrepancies between the number of seats in the WP:LEAD and in the table on the right.
  5. Per MOS:DTT, column headers in the middle of the table should be avoidable. I'd suggest simply splitting the table of members in two: one for the constituencies, and one for the reserved seats.

TompaDompa (talk) 21:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa: Thank you for your comments. I made some changes and tried to fix the first two issues. The reason of discrepancy is because some of the seats are vacant and by-election are due to be held in October. Regarding the last point, it was not an issue for List of members of the 14th National Assembly of Pakistan. --Saqib (talk) 18:29, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the discrepancies should be explained in the WP:LEAD. That the last issue was missed in a previous WP:FLC is no reason not to fix it in this one. TompaDompa (talk) 20:16, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TompaDompa: I've made the changes. Anything else? --Saqib (talk) 05:37, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
PTI has 149 seats according to the WP:LEAD, 150 according to the table. PML-N has 82 seats according to the WP:LEAD, 81 according to the table. PPP has 53 seats according to the WP:LEAD, 54 according to the table. TompaDompa (talk) 06:18, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
PML-N and PPP numbers are correct. PTI's difference is because one reserved seat for women is vacant. --Saqib (talk) 06:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The differences between the table and the next need to be explained on the page itself. TompaDompa (talk) 07:10, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed PTI's vacant seat from the table. --Saqib (talk) 07:21, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TompaDompa: Anything else? --Saqib (talk) 11:53, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are still a bunch of mismatches between the text in the WP:LEAD, the image in the lead, and the table in the lead. The image says 329 seats in total, whereas the table says 330. The text says 149 seats for PTI, whereas the image shows 150 and the table says 151. The text says 82 seats for PML-N, whereas the image and table say 81. The text says 53 seats for PPP, whereas the image and table say 54. TompaDompa (talk) 21:11, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Saqib are you going to address TompaDompa's last comment? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:32, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Of Course but by 21 October. --Saqib (talk) 19:57, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man and TompaDompa: I've fixed the list. --Saqib (talk) 03:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments I compared this to the previous edition which is already a FL so it's understandable why it's so similar, but I have some current comments:

  • What does "bicameral" mean?
  • "remaining 2 directly-electable" two
  • "PTI won 149 seats in the National Assembly." infobox says 156, discrepancy needs explanation or resolution.
  • Similar for the following sentences.
  • " PML-N" key says " PML (N)"
  • "On 14 October 2018, by-election were held on 11 National Assembly seats.[10]" by-elections, and what was the result of this?
  • Rowspans should be used where possible.
  • Blank "assumed office" cell should be fixed.
  • In fact, what's the point of the "assumed office" column when 99% of it was 13 August 2018? Just add footnotes to the ones who didn't assume office on that day.
  • What is the default sort? Why can't I get back to listing it by constituency?
  • Use ref's 11, 12 and 31 more elegantly, instead of repeating them dozens of times.

That's it for a really quick run through. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:53, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Let me answer some of the queries here. Parliament of Pakistan is a bicameral federal legislature that consists of the Senate as the upper house and the National Assembly, as the lower house. I've fixed the 2nd point. PTI won 149 seats and PML-N won 82 in the general election held on 25 July. Some of the seats won by PTI were later vacated and by-election on vacated seats were held. As of now, PTI has 156 seats and PML-N has 85. I've expanded the last paragraph to resolve the 6th point. I don't get 7th point (Rowspans should be used where possible.). 8th point (assumed office date) has been fixed. --Saqib (talk) 07:46, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You haven't answered all of the questions, as for the 7th point, please see Help:Table for how to implement rowspans (where you don't have to repeat the same data line after line after line, like you do with Region (for instance) with Khyber Pakhtunkhwa repeated 30 or so times... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:48, 10 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@The Rambling Man: Rowspans added. Regarding your question "what's the point of the assumed office"; if you look at the List of members of the 14th National Assembly of Pakistan, you will find many new members joined the National Assembly following the 2013 general election so I assume same should happen with the 15th National Assembly and we should mention the office joined date to give an overview who joined when. There is no default sort and I've no idea how to fix it. I've fixed the last point (references). I believe rest of queries have been answered already above. Please feel free to raise further issues. --Saqib (talk) 11:41, 14 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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