Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of international rugby union tries by Jonah Lomu/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 23:31, 7 February 2016 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of international rugby union tries by Jonah Lomu edit

Featured list candidates/List of international rugby union tries by Jonah Lomu/archive1

Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 22:11, 2 January 2016 (UTC), Mr.Apples2010[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it meets the criteria, and Lomu is the first superstar rugby player. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:11, 2 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 10:00, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"However, Lomu was unable to score a try in the final..." comma after final?
Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"After 2 tries in 1996..." shouldn't the 2 be two instead, per MOS:NUM?
Gah, fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"including a score in..." I would change a score to one. A score reads oddly to me
Fixed per your suggestion. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"He followed this with a try against Scotland in the quarter-finals and two tries in the semi-finals..." comma after semi-finals
Comma added. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"At the time Lomu's tally of eight tries in the tournament was a World Cup record..." I would remove At the time, I think the sentence works better without it and maybe specify in which tournament equalled the total
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Might be worth mentioning Lomu had to retire due to issues with his kidneys
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Is there much point in including rowspan in the table, seeing as they disappear when the table is sorted?
Well, per List of international goals scored by Wayne Rooney, if I don't do it, someone else will. I don't see a major issue either way. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
score column does not sort properly
Yep, will work on that. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ref 8 is missing an author and date and should use cite news template
I don't see why cite web can't be used for online content of news websites. Other stuff fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ref 9 is missing a publisher
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
ref 12 should be cite news template
Not sure why cite web isn't acceptable for online news sources, as has been the case for the past decade...? The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You have a location for the Daily Telegraph, but no The Guardian or Independent, be consistent.
Location gone. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

NapHit (talk) 12:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, responded to everything, will fix the sorting. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support great work! NapHit (talk) 10:00, 19 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Hopefully someone else can keep it going to FL! The Rambling Man (talk) 20:00, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Support – Prose covers the necessary information appropriately and succinctly. No issues with table formatting. Nicely done, TRM. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 20:37, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! The Rambling Man (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from SNUGGUMS

It would help to add a time and/or location to the pic's caption
Have done this. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:38, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
"the sixteenth highest on the all time list" try worldwide or overall
Not sure I see an advantage to changing what's already there if I'm honest... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:38, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Very good list, only minor concerns. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:49, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your review and kind words. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:38, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I now support this nomination. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:23, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Parutakupiu

I have performed a full copyediting of the lead, and during this process I was bold and updated Lomu's personal records, which did not account the most recent World Cup edition. According to the sources provided, Lomu is now the sixth best New Zealand try scorer (passed by Savea) and all-time eighteenth (or seventeenth, if one considers least number of matches). Also, his overall and single-tournament World Cup record of 15 and 8 tries have both been matched by Bryan Habana as of the 2015 tournament.

As for the rest of the list, here are my comments:

I would order the table columns in this way: 1) Try, 2) Date, 3) Opposing team, 4) Score, 5) Competition, 6) Venue, 7) Location, 8) Ref.
As you can notice in the previous point, I would discard the "Result" column (therefore, making the Key section unnecessary) and would state instead, in a sentence before the table, that New Zealand's score is listed first in "Score" column.

— Parutakupiu (talk) 02:15, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Parutakupiu, thanks, done. Please don't ask me to reorganise the columns again... The Rambling Man (talk) 11:44, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Haha, can't promise you that, The Rambling Man! Parutakupiu (talk) 12:23, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 18:28, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

;Source review by Cowlibob

List uses reliable sources such ESPN, BBC News, Sky Sports, The Guardian. Dates are in correct format. Some of the BBC links are 301 redirects but lead to the page with the information present. Spotchecks of sources don't reveal copyvio, plagiarism or lack of verification. As there are only thirty references, it might be a good idea to archive them to preserve them for the future.

I think ESPN Scrum should be deitalicised as it's an online source.
debut needs cite, ref 1 would do.
Also that he scored his first try in his third appearance, ref 1 will do.
cite needed for not scoring a try in the 1995 final.
Also for never scoring a try against South Africa or Wales. I think ref 1 will do.

Cowlibob (talk) 20:33, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cowlibob, done, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:50, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed. Cowlibob (talk) 18:28, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:01, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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