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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 27 May 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of female 24 Hours of Le Mans drivers

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List of female 24 Hours of Le Mans drivers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): MWright96 (talk) 19:19, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Following the successful promotion of the List of 24 Hours of Le Mans winners to featured list status, I hereby present to you a list of all the women and all-women teams who have competed in the iconic French automobile endurance motor race. I welcome all comments for this review. MWright96 (talk) 19:19, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:28, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
*Check for image captions which are complete sentences and therefore need full stops

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

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CommentsSupport from TRM

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That's it for a first pass. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 13:42, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support my primary concerns addressed, one comment above but not critical. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 20:36, 26 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Z1720

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I am still new to commenting on FLCs, so feedback and questions about my comments are welcome. I will be focusing on the lede, prose, and understandability.

  • "and were ranked under the same performance standards for its part in advocating sexual equality" I don't understand what this sentence is telling me. Was the race ranked by some external agency for its advocacy? Is sentence saying that women and men were treated equally? Please clarify in the article
  • "the ACO officially refused to allow women" Before the 1956 race, were they unofficially refusing female entries? If not, remove officially.
  • " to enter the event as a consequence of the fatal accident of" -> "to enter the event after the fatal accident of" to tighten up the language.
  • "The restriction was lifted when the women's liberation movement had reached French motorsport in 1971." This sentence is hinting at events as part of the women's liberation movement, but is not very specific. What actions did the movement take to get Le Mans to reversal their ban? This doesn't have to be very long, perhaps a half-sentence.
  • " followed by the United Kingdom in second with 16 female drivers and Belgium in third with five female racers." Since you say "followed by" the reader will automatically assume the UK is second and Belgium third, so "in second" and "in third" can be removed.
  • "There have been six countries which have been represented by just one woman racer." I think this is going into too much detail in the lede, as it makes the reader wonder why countries with four, three or two entries have not been talked about.
  • " driving for Richard Mille Racing in the Le Mans Prototype 2 (LMP2) category." I don't think this is necessary, as the article has not mentioned other racing companies earlier in the lede.
  • "Since the first race in 1923, there have been 28 all-female squads, all consisting of either two or three drivers." delete the second all.

Those are my comments. Z1720 (talk) 20:50, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source and image review (BennyOnTheLoose)

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Sources

  • ISBN format for McCarthy (2007) should be changed to match the others in the bibliography (i.e. "978...")
  • Motorsport Stats and Automobile Club de l'Ouest are both used multiple times. They seem to be suitable reliable sources, as do the books in the bibliography.
  • Spot checks on McCarthy (2007), Vergeer (2009), O'Kane (2012), Porsche (2018), Monteal Gazette (1971), Motor Sport re:Colleen Eaton". All good. (assisted by an online translation tool).
  • Looks like there is some editorial oversight at racingsportscars.com, but what confirms that this is a reliable source?
  • Author Isabelle Griffon is missing from the France 3 reference.

Images

  • All PD or CC. I was a bit dubious about the picture of Lombardi but, looking back to the flickr page, it seems fine.
  • "Michèle Mouton won her class in the 1975 24 Hours of Le Mans." - as the picture is quite a bit later than the race, perhaps add "(pictured in 2011)"
  • I suggest amending "Sarah Bovy is the most recent driver to debut at the event." to avoid this becoming outdated when this is no longer the case.
  • "The Moynet LM75 car that Christine Dacremont, Mouton and Marianne Hoepfner used to win their class at the 1975 24 Hours of Le Mans." - I think this would read better if Mouton's first name was included, even though this is on the top picture in the article.
  • Otherwise, captions and placement are fine.

Other comments

  • The Canada and South Africa flags in the 24 Hours of Le Mans female drivers by country table is the new one, whilst the one next the drivers are the old ones. As all these wins were before the new flag was introduced, should the same one be used in both places? (Perhaps not, per "Consistency is not paramount" and "Overbroad use of flags with politicized connotations" in MOS:FLAG.)


MWright96 (now renamed to CatRacer22) has retired as of last week; is anyone willing to take over this nomination to sort out the source/image problems raised by BennyOnTheLoose? --PresN 15:13, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 22:50, 26 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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