Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of cricketers who have taken five-wicket hauls on ODI debut/archive1
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The list was promoted by Crisco 1492 04:29, 24 July 2015 [1].
List of cricketers who have taken five-wicket hauls on ODI debut (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): —Vensatry (ping) , Joseph2302 (talk)
Another fifers list. Joseph2302 created the basic article, I developed the lead and tidied up the table. I have another candidate which has got two supports with no outstanding concerns. As always, look forward to comments and suggestions. —Vensatry (ping) 12:58, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- As the article creator, I obviously support this. I believe it passes all the criteria, and is an interesting, comprehensive list of information about this topic. I know WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS isn't a good argument, but I believe it's as good, probably better, than some of the other Featured cricket lists. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:13, 24 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseph2302: I have included you as a co-nominator. I know the support was made in good faith, yet beware that you cannot support your own nominations. Cheers —Vensatry (ping) 11:03, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Fair enough, I wasn't sure, which was why I didn't bold it. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:04, 25 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- "Players from six teams that have permanent ODI status" - I would say "Players from six of the ten teams that have permanent ODI status", it seems clearer
- "Sri Lanka cricketer Uvais Karnain was the first to take a five-wicket haul on ODI debut. He took 5 wickets for 26 runs against New Zealand in March 1984" - two very short sentences here, maybe try "first to take a five-wicket haul on ODI debut when he took....."
- "Canada cricketer Austin Codrington's five wickets for 27 runs .... is...." - "five wickets is" doesn't really work, might be better as "Canada cricketer Austin Codrington took five wickets for 27 runs against Bangladesh in the group stage of the 2003 Cricket World Cup, which is...."
- What's wrong with the present structure? —Vensatry (ping) 17:31, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- As it stands, the subject of the sentence is "five wickets", and you can't say "five wickets....is" because it's not grammatically correct. Another alternative would be ""Canada cricketer Austin Codrington's tally of five wickets for 27 runs .... is....". But you can't really say "five wickets is"............ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- also, why is it "five wickets for 27 runs" here where everywhere else in the lead it is "5 wickets for XX runs"? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right. Fixed —Vensatry (ping) 04:46, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- also, why is it "five wickets for 27 runs" here where everywhere else in the lead it is "5 wickets for XX runs"? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:51, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- As it stands, the subject of the sentence is "five wickets", and you can't say "five wickets....is" because it's not grammatically correct. Another alternative would be ""Canada cricketer Austin Codrington's tally of five wickets for 27 runs .... is....". But you can't really say "five wickets is"............ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- What's wrong with the present structure? —Vensatry (ping) 17:31, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Notes: "It was South Africa's first ODI when it was re-admitted to international cricket following their ban in 1970" - you have "it....it....their", which doesn't make grammatical sense. Maybe try "It was South Africa's first ODI after the team was re-admitted to international cricket following a ban imposed in 1970"
- Corrected, although not exactly as you suggested. —Vensatry (ping) 17:31, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Any reason why the dates are in US format? Pretty sure UK format would be better for a cricket article........
- Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:54, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - all looks OK now -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:14, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- The "bowler" column should sort by surname.
- Done. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:59, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Why does the "over" cell for Kagiso Rabada have "8.0" while no other cell has superfluous decimal points?
- Changed it to 8. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:59, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Retained the decimal part to maintain uniformity. —Vensatry (ping) 07:02, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Can the "bowler" column be made narrower so that the "Batsmen" column can be wider, so that it doesn't have to wrap?
- You need to include column scopes.
- "South Africa cricketers...", "Sri Lanka cricketer...", "Australia cricketer...", "Canada cricketer..." in these cases, they should be "South African", "Sri Lankan", "Australian", "Canadian" as it is being used as an adjective.
- When we say "Canadian" it would refer to the nationality rather than the team. For eg., Austin Codrington is a Canadian cricketer of Jamaican descent. Hope that makes sense —Vensatry (ping) 07:02, 17 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- "England, India, New Zealand and Pakistan are yet to have a debutant taking a five-wicket haul." Should use "take" not "taking". Harrias talk 15:18, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Fixed this grammar. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:59, 16 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- @Harrias: Hope your concerns are fixed now. —Vensatry (ping) 15:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support, I've added in no non-breaking spaces and the such to alleviate some of the silly line breaks because of column widths, and it looks good to me now. Harrias talk 16:01, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks but did you notice width of the table? —Vensatry (ping) 17:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 19:33, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] |
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NapHit (talk) 17:53, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Support Great work. NapHit (talk) 19:33, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply] |
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The Rambling Man (talk) 06:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 04:19, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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