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List of awards and nominations received by The Voice (U.S. TV series)

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Nominator(s): Mymis (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

I am nominating it for featured list because I do believe that it passes the FL criteria. The article includes a list of various awards and nominations received by popular American singing competition series The Voice aired on NBC. The list was nominated before but failed to attract enough reviewers. Mymis (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Resolved comments by Aoba47

Comments from Aoba47 There is an unnecessary repetition of the word “singing” in the third sentence of the first paragraph, and I would change “singing competition” since it was previously used in the first sentence. Something about the phrasing of the second sentence seems strange to me. The show itself isn’t really looking for new talent, as the judges and producers are really doing this. You could be right with this, but I just wanted to raise this point to you. Not sure about the wording with a “panel of four coaches”. Yes, there are four coaches, but that wording and the phrasing “a panel of four coaches who choose…” makes it sound like the judges work together as a single unit to choose and help contestants when they act individually with their individual teams of contestants. I would just say something like “the series features four coaches who choose their favorite…” and in that case, change “guides” to “guide”. @Mymis: Great work with this article. All of my comments are more nitpick-oriented. Let me know if you have any questions about my review. Once my comments are addressed, I will support this once my review is addressed. Aoba47 (talk) 04:49, 20 September 2016 (UTC) Thank you for your comments, I believe I fixed them. Could you take a look again? Thanks! Mymis (talk) 19:34, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Mymis: Awesome job with this article, and thank you for your prompt response. I can definitely support this. If possible, could you review my FLC? Aoba47 (talk) 17:11, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Resolved comments by FrB.TG

Comments "and guides their selected teams through" - I think it should be guide without the conjugation since we are talking about the four coaches. Fixed it. Since The Voice is an American show, the winning prize is likely to be in US dollars so I don't think you need to wiki-link $. Unlinked. "The Voice has additionally been nominated for six Critics' Choice Television Awards (three wins), six People's Choice Awards (three wins), four Television Critics Association Awards, six Teen Choice Awards (three wins for the series) ..." - could we at least name some of the awards? What is the difference between this and infobox then? The awards from Critics' Choice the show has received are very notable categories. All the awards listed in the sentence are for the show itself as outstanding/best reality series, nothing so much to break it down. I could shorten the sentence: "The Voice has additionally been nominated for six Critics' Choice Television Awards (three wins), six People's Choice Awards (three wins), four Television Critics Association Awards, among other awards", if the paragraph seems to be too detailed. Yeah, that would be good - you don't need to count every award it has won. Some of them can perhaps be removed without any harm e.g. Teen Choice or Billboard Mid-Year. But still I would like to see at least the awards from Critics' choice to be mentioned. Perhaps instead of saying that the show has won three Critics' Choice Awards, you could say that the show has won three Critics' Choice Television Awards for Best Reality Series – Competition or three Critics' Choice Television Awards in the Best Reality Series – Competition category? FrB.TG (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2016 (UTC) "The coaches of the show have also been acknowledged with nine nominations and three wins" - way too wordy. Perhaps better as "... show have also won three awards from nine nominations". Paraphrased. Those texts above the tables are quite unnecessary e.g. "List of ADG Excellence in Production Design Awards and nominations received by The Voice", "List of ASCAP Film and Television Music Awards and nominations received by The Voice". It is quite obvious that these are accolades received by The Voice and not Breaking Bad. Well, they emphasize what a certain table covers. I've seen it in many other articles, do you think it's way too redundant? All the tables have their sections. I don't think it could any clearer and yes it is redundant. FrB.TG (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2016 (UTC) "recognise" is British. It should be recognize. Fixed it. I think you might need Levine's full name in the image caption. Added it. WP:ALT text needed for the images. Added it. I will probably check references later. – FrB.TG (talk) 08:25, 4 December 2016 (UTC) Thank you for taking a look at my article. I tried to address all the issues. Do you have any more comments? Mymis (talk) 14:16, 6 December 2016 (UTC) Mymis comments await you! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:58, 5 December 2016 (UTC) The total count can perhaps be shifted to the very beginning as it reads more relevant. It can begin with something like, "As of 2016, American reality television singing competition The Voice has won 32 awards from a total of 95 nominations. The show premiered on NBC..." Well, I don't know, the opening paragraph covers the show itself, with subsequent ones dealing with the awards, it's more organized to mention the sentence in the end. Take a look at the first word of each sentences in the opening paragraph: all beginning with the definite article (or the show's title). Quite repetitive. I would rephrase. Changed it. I have no issues with sources i.e. formatting and reliability - no spotcheck. That is quite impressive! – FrB.TG (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2016 (UTC) Thank you, do you have any more comments? Mymis (talk) 01:05, 9 December 2016 (UTC) Yes, I'd replied to your responses which are yet to be addressed. – FrB.TG (talk) 07:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC) Well, they were. Is there an issue you mentioned that I missed? Mymis (talk) 14:03, 9 December 2016 (UTC) No, I had some concerns in my initial review. You disagreed with some which I've replied to - see the first few comments. – FrB.TG (talk) 14:31, 9 December 2016 (UTC) I don't think you're following me here: look at my reply to your reply on the third and fifth comments. – FrB.TG (talk) 15:35, 9 December 2016 (UTC) Yes, I saw your replies, and I agree with them, and applied them to the article. Sorry I didn't reply directly underneath your replies. Mymis (talk) 17:32, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

• Whoopsy daisy! Thanks for addressing them. I believe I can support the list's promotion now. Also, I am pinging the reviewer of the previous nom @Lemonade51:. – FrB.TG (talk) 18:05, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:51, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Comments I removed the use of the non-free image from the main article as no rationale existed for its inclusion there. Having said that, I'm somewhat flummoxed that you believe there's a justification for its inclusion in this article at all. The main article, perhaps, but not this one, it doesn't bring anything encyclopedic to the article and should be replaced. I am not aware of its usage in other articles. In this article I don't know, was not sure which picture I was supposed to use. In award list articles, it is usually any picture from an award show featuring show's cast or certain people who have received most awards. In this case, the show itself has won the most awards, so the logo of it would illustrate this article the best. If you think it does not, which picture should I use? I'm not an expert on fair use images, perhaps Nikkimaria can add some wisdom to this discussion. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:53, 13 December 2016 (UTC) We're talking about the logo, correct? It would be easier to justify its use on the show article itself rather than here. We certainly could use an award show picture here, such as the one of Levine later in the article. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:02, 13 December 2016 (UTC) Adam Levine's picture is not from an award show where won something for The Voice. Even if it was, he has not won any major awards, only a Teen Choice Award which is probably least notable of all awards. It would be misleading to use a picture of him at the top of the page. Almost all the awards were won by the show itself, not by specific people. Logo is the only way to illustrate it that I can think of. Mymis (talk) 17:50, 13 December 2016 (UTC) Who collected the awards on behalf of the show? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC) Producers, I suppose, at least for the Emmys. But there are like 20 of them listed as nominees. Mymis (talk) 00:20, 15 December 2016 (UTC) I apologize for the intrusion, but I just wanted to add a comment about this here. I have seen featured lists of awards and nominations of television show use the series' logo as the infobox image (such as List of awards and nominations received by Arrested Development and List of awards and nominations received by Louie) so I believe it should be allowed here as well. However, if a consensus is formed against it, then I see no problem in using the image of Levine from the body of the article as the one in the infobox (similar to how Jessica Lange's image is used in the infobox for List of awards and nominations received by American Horror Story. And the image does not have to be of the person with the award). The caption could be changed to Levine has been nominated for the most awards out of all of the show's judges. Either way, I would see as acceptable. I am not personally a fan of having the Adam Levine image in the Teen Choice award section as it seems somewhat random and unnecessary to me. It is the only image outside of the infobox and it doesn't really serve that much of a point in my opinion, and would encourage it to be removed either way the infobox stuff is decided. Aoba47 (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2016 (UTC) This fair use image issue needs to be cleared up. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:53, 21 December 2016 (UTC) Usage of the judges' pictures would be misleading as they were nominated/won very small portion of the total number number of awards, and only non-notable ones. I am not well familiar with policies of image usage, but I do believe using logo would be meet WP:NFCCP as logo is the only way to illustrate the show itself when no free images are available. Mymis (talk) 11:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC) I believe that's a reasonable fair use article for its inclusion in the main article, but this is about awards and nominations, not about the show itself. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC) " thirty one" 31 per MOS. No, MOS does not say that. Added the hyphen though. "The Voice has been nominated ...The Voice has additionally been nominated..." consecutive sentences, makes for repetitive prose. Paraphrased it. Order in infobox is different from order in list. Changed it. "American Society of Composers Authors and Publishers" comma missing. Added the comma. " six times out of thirty one nominations" 6 ... 31 (or at the very least, thirty-one). Added the hyphen. "John De Mol " should be "John de Mol" and Jr if you're being absolutely precise. I copied it from the Emmys website, I suppose they made a mistake. Changed it. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:11, 12 December 2016 (UTC) Thank you. Could you take a look again? Mymis (talk) 22:11, 12 December 2016 (UTC) @The Rambling Man: Well, the rationale would be the same because the article is the award list and the show itself has won the most awards. However, I see that usage of non-free images is considered a major crime and as much as I'd love to continue to argue, at the same time I do not wish to eventually go to Wikipedia jail. I replaced it with two free images that show the producers. Not the best option to display selected producers, as there is a dozen of them, but the best I could have come up with. Do I have your support now? Are there enough comments brought up to promote the article? Thanks. Mymis (talk) 04:29, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 22:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Comments – In the lead, "and" is needed before "six Teen Choice Awards" for the sentence to work grammatically. Are you missing the number of ASCAP Film and Television Music Awards noms, or was that a conscious decision to exclude that figure from the lead? ASCAP Film and Television Music Awards: "The Voice has won four times every year from 2012 until 2015." This reads like they won four awards per year, which surely isn't the intention. This needs a prose tweak for sure. Billboard Mid-Year Music Awards: "Voted online on the Billboard's official website". Don't think "the" should be there. Imagen Awards: While there is a quote involved, "dedicated to recognize" isn't good grammar. Maybe put "recognize(s) and reward(s)"? TV Guide Awards: "The TV Guide Awards are presented by an American magazine TV Guide". Remove "an". Also remove "the" before "American television" in the same area. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

• Source review – While I'm here, I'll save you some time and take a look at the sourcing. All of the references appear reliable and well-formatted, and the link-checker reveals no problems. That aspect of the article is a pass as far as I'm concerned. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments! I did make all the changes. I didn't include all the awards in the lead because it'd make it overdetailed, as pointed by one of the reviewers. Mymis (talk) 11:35, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

• Support – All of my concerns have been resolved. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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