Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Ariana Grande/archive1

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The list was promoted by SchroCat 18:18, 3 April 2015 [1].

List of awards and nominations received by Ariana Grande edit

Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Ariana Grande/archive1

Nominator(s): FrankBoy _(Buzz) 19:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

After taking six lists to featured status, I am nominating a fully-sourced awards list of Ariana Grande. This is my first nomination on a non-Bollywood article. There has not been any edit-warring in the recent history of the article, although I and Musdan77 had a disagreement, which was eventually resolved. As always, lookin' forward to constructive comments, which I am eagerly waiting for. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 19:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Aaron

Resvolved comments from Aaron

The lead needs to be sourced and have inline citations for each sentence. The second paragraph is completely void of citations.

We don't have to repeat the sources in the lead per WP:LEAD.

I guess you don't have to. I like to just show that it shows what is written is authentic and sourced. — ₳aron 12:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that you have used the British date format of Day-Month-Year. As Grande is American, and this is an article about an American, the American date format of Month-Day-Year should be implement in the lead as well as the references.

Done.

Aside from that, it's well written, well structured and well referenced, and I'd be happy to voice my support for it when the two points above are addressed. — ₳aron 22:24, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Calvin. I hope I have done justice to your comments. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 10:53, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support - — ₳aron 12:04, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 12:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Tomica edit

Unlink Ariana Grande in the awards box
Ok, personally I think that the lead here needs a re-writing. I don't see the point having a whole paragraph that reads as summary of her whole career. I think you can mash up her highlights with the awards won or nomination received
- To address this issue, a help could be List of awards and nominations received by Madonna lead. See how they mash her career with the awards won at the time. Of course Grande is not on even 1/10 on Madonna's success or age, however, I believe you can do it good.

I have shortened the first para restricting to the award materials only. I can not think of mixing the first and second para as in the second one as most of the awards are outside of her album work; they are awarded to her for her music work, fashion, style etc, not for a particular work. Besides, I think it's essential to mention her important releases, just like some FLs do, such as Chris Brown. Anyways, I have done some tweaks and trimming for a better flow. Hope they look better now.

After you re-write the lead (if you) I might further comment on the prose
The tables look good from a brief first look
Idolator is not a reliable source for FL/FA
Ref #27, Digital Spy should not be italicized
Ref #36 same as above

Ref 36 (now 33) seems to be the one by The Hollywood Reporter, I guess it needs to be in italics. They are always italicized.

I believe Zap2It is not a reliable source
Ref #54 see Ref #36
Splitting the references in 4 columns is too much, do it in 3
You can add an 'External link' section with Grande's profile on Allmusic (specifically her awards)

I don't see a need for this one as the awards data available in the source are only based on Billboard charts.

I am not gonna oppose, but I think that this list still needs an additional work before it's promoted to FL, especially its prose. After the comments are addressed I am gonna revisit the list and respond. All the best! — Tomíca^(T2ME) 20:13, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Tomica: Thanks for the input. I have resolved almost all of them. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 22:25, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Tomica as I am not sure if you have watchlisted this or not, but my response towards your comments were quite swift. --FrankBoy _(Buzz) 13:54, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I still don't think the lead is good enough. Suggestions: Move the 2013 awards to the paragraph with the information for Yours Truly and the 2014 for the ones with My Everything. Further: At the 31st annual MTV Video Music Awards, Grande won the Best Pop Video award, and garnered three nominations, including Best Female Video. --- for what song? As a reader I would like to see that in the lead. Same here: She was awarded the Best Song and the Best Female awards at the 2014 MTV Europe Music Awards.. Awkward prose: Grande, at the 2014 Young Hollywood Awards, earned three nominations, including for Hottest Music Artist.. As I said, read carefully the Madonna list and see how well is written, then imply it here. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 13:59, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have made some tweaks and have moved the album/single related awards to the first para. While the first para talks about her accolades for her work, the second one (except the first two sentences) is about her awards outside her music work. Thanks @Tomica:. I haven't read Madonna's accolades list BTW. --ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ _(Buzz) 14:47, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With the lead looking [reading] quite better now, I give my support. — Tomíca^(T2ME) 15:38, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, thank u so much, Tomica. --ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ _(Buzz) 15:45, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from SNUGGUMS edit

Resolved concerns from SNUGGUMS

Sorry for not getting to this sooner, here are my comments.....

For Teen Choice awards, I'd swap out the "Breakout Artist" nomination for the nomination "The Way" received for "Best Love Song"; it better shows nominations pertaining to the Yours Truly album
No mention of "Problem" winning at the teen choice awards?
While the Kids Choice Awards aren't as prominent as things such as MTV Video Music Awards or People's Choice Awards, it's worth adding for her role in Sam & Cat; this is a well-known role she had.
FN10 should read KABC-TV
Disney shouldn't be italicized in FN47

Not a bad list overall. Snuggums (talk / edits) 02:10, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @SNUGGUMS: I guess I am done with resolving your concerns. --ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ _(Buzz) 07:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support good work :) Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks SNUGGUMS. :) --ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ _(Buzz) 20:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 18:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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