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The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 22:23, 11 August 2009 [1].

List of awards and nominations received by Alison Krauss

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Nominator(s): Staxringold talkcontribs 00:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Long ago I authored Wikipedia's featured article on Alison Krauss. I disappeared from Wiki for a while, but following my last return I happened upon List of awards and nominations received by Beck. Following the standards laid out in that FL (and in the many FL's by User:Gary King on musician awards) I realized I could rewrite Krauss' list which had been left to the wolves since I initially formatted it a bit during Krauss' writing process. I now feel the list stands up to the FL standard for musician awards as exemplified in the aforementioned Beck list. Staxringold talkcontribs 00:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment A couple of the sources seem questionable in terms of reliability: http://www.twin-music.com/lists/40women.html and http://www.whowonwhen.com/entertainment/acm_awards/academy-country-music-2005.php. Also, the access dates shouldn't have ordinals, and refs 2 and 3 are missing publishers. The Billboard ref is dead (see [2]), but since they're redesigning their pages that's to be expected. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some awards simply don't seem to keep track of their nomination history. Those ACM nominations are mirrored by multiple sources, it's just there is no list on the official ACM site. Nominees but just for the 44th. I can happily remove the 40 women list thing, it's just an interesting honor (that once again there is limited material online about). I'll fix the refs now. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support once 1969 is unlinked. The other years are unlinked so 1969 should not be linked in my view. Consistency and all that. I'm not a fan of linking solo years anyway ;-) Nice work. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Truco
Oppose from Truco (talk · contribs)
General
Lead
  • Alison Krauss (born July 23, 1971 in Decatur, Illinois) is an American bluegrass-country singer and fiddler. -- unlink Country music, its a well known genre that does not need the link.
  • Krauss has also released 5 compilation albums - Now That I've Found You: A Collection (1995), Live (2002), Home on the Highways: Band Picked Favorites (2005), A Hundred Miles or More: A Collection (2007), and Essential Alison Krauss (2009) - and made other notable recordings such the single Whiskey Lullaby with Brad Paisley or her several songs on the O Brother, Where Art Thou? soundtrack. -- A)Change the endashes to emdashes and make sure the dash connects both the preceding and following word. B)+as before the single C)Change the or to and
  • Krauss has won 26[4] Grammy Awards, most by a female artist and 3rd most by any artist all time. -- 3rd --> third
  • She has also won 14 International Bluegrass Music Association Awards,[6] 8 Country Music Association Awards,[7][8] 2 Gospel Music Association Awards,[9] 2 CMT Music Awards,[10][11][12] 2 Academy of Country Music Awards,[13] and 1 Canadian Country Music Award. -- numbers that are 9 and under should be spelled out instead of using an integer (per MOS:NUM)
  • The lead should state her overall awards and nominations count; yes the infobox states it but the lead should also.
Awards
  • For one, this section should be renamed to at least Awards and nominations, since that's what it's about.
  • Overall: Change all numbers that are 9 and under from integers to spelled out words (MOS:NUM)
  • The Country Music Association Awards have been presented annually by the Country Music Association since 1967 and are generally presented at the Grand Ole Opry. -- Comma before and
  • Each statement that gives the summary of awards like Singer A has received so and so awards from so and so nominations should all be consistent. They should all at least be in a format similar to Singer A has received five awards from 140 nominations.
References
  • Ref 1 should be properly formatted. The for Billboard.com is not correct, a publisher should also be added.
  • Ref 2 and 3 lack publishers
  • Ref 4 should not have from Grammys.com, the publisher should just be |publisher=Grammy Awards or |publisher=Grammys.com
  • Ref 5, there shouldn't be a period before CNN
  • All the refs need to be referred to my comment about Ref 4, they are all improperly formatted.
Oh okay, I see now. The only other problem that I see is for sections in which Alison only won one award from one nomination <-instead of saying that-> reword it to has received one award., to avoid redundancy.--Truco 503 02:51, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:36, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
*Comments
    • Not overly keen on "w/" meaning "with" - any reason why we can't be explicit?
    • Should we not name awards what they were when they were awarded? For instance (and mind you, this could be the only instance!), that 1991 Grammy was actually "Best Bluegrass Recording", not "... Album". If so, then please check the others. For (one more) instance, the 1995 Grammy was actually "Best Southern Gospel, Country Gospel or Bluegrass Gospel Album", not "Best Southern/Country/Bluegrass Gospel Album" as you called it.
      • Done, along with a couple others (the 95 Country Collab. with Vocals and the newest Folk Album). Do you think I should link to the award a second time if the name changes? IE, should BOTH the 91 Best Bluegrass Recording AND the 93 Best Bluegrass Album link to the award (since with different names it might not be clear)? Staxringold talkcontribs 21:33, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I often suggest this, but I would prefer to see each table have the same column widths for consistency throughout. However, it's nothing mandatory, just a suggestion.

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)
Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)
  • Singles (songs) are in quotation marks.
  • "(born July 23, 1971 in Decatur, Illinois)" is unnecessary info and should be removed.
  • "6 with Union Station" So is Union Station a recording company? Also, is there a link for it?
  • "Krauss has also released five"
  • "and made other notable recordings such as the single Whiskey Lullaby with Brad Paisley and her several songs on the O Brother, Where Art Thou? soundtrack." What makes these recordings especially "notable"?
  • Whiskey Lullaby won about 2342 awards and earned Gold RIAA certification (her only RIAA certified single). O Brother, Where Art Thou was probably the biggest bluegrass/country music event in more than a decade and she was a part of it. I was simply trying to find a way to make mention of the vast majority of "other" recordings she has done. Staxringold talkcontribs 21:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The albums Now That I've Found You and Live were each certified double platinum"
  • "About It and Raising Sand were each certified platinum; and So Long So Wrong, New Favorite, Lonely Runs Both Ways, and the single Whiskey Lullaby were all certified gold."
  • "Krauss has won 26 Grammy Awards, most by a female artist and third most by any artist all time."-->Krauss has won 26[4] Grammy Awards, most by a female artist and third most by any artist all time. Add "the" before "most".
  • "for a total of 55 awards from 96 nominations." This info usually goes at the end. You would say "Alison Krauss has received 55 awards from 96 nominations."
  • "and are generally presented at the Grand Ole Opry." "usually" sounds better than "generally" here.
  • "received eight awards from 27 nominations." Per WP:MOSNUM, comparable quantities should be written in the same format. So, "received 8 awards from 27 nominations". or "received eight awards from twenty-seven nominations".
  • "Those 26 wins are the most for any female artist (and the third most for all artists overall) in Grammy history." Remove "all"; change "for" to "of" in both instances.
  • "The International Bluegrass Music Association Awards are awarded annually by the International Bluegrass Music Association, founded in 1985." Makes it sound as if the association was founded in 1985. Try "Founded in 1985, the International Bluegrass Music Association Awards are awarded annually by the International Bluegrass Music Association." Dabomb87 (talk) 14:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ref 1, Billboard is the work and Nielsen Business Media, Inc. is the publisher.
  • To determine the reliability of the site, we need to know what sort of fact checking they do. You can establish this by showing news articles that say the site is reliable/noteworthy/etc. or you can show a page on the site that gives their rules for submissions/etc. or you can show they are backed by a media company/university/institute, or you can show that the website gives its sources and methods, or there are some other ways that would work too. It's their reputation for reliability that needs to be demonstrated. Please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches for further information. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:21, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks OK at a glance.

  • Wondering why the totals at the bottom of the infobox are formatted in such a complicated way: since green and red are the colour codings for wins and nominations, respectively, why not a single row, "Totals", with 55 and 96 across in the green and red columns. Seems simple and carries through the idea of the the colours.Tony (talk) 17:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's how the template is formatted. Ultimately though I don't really see it as complicated, it's basically the same length. Staxringold talkcontribs 20:29, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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