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List of accolades received by The Boy and the Heron edit

List of accolades received by The Boy and the Heron (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Boy and the Heron (2023) is the latest — and potentially last — animated feature film from Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli. It collected a total of 27 wins among its 64 notable award nominations; among them were wins at the 96th Academy Awards and 77th British Academy Film Awards, which had seldom, if ever, recognized Japanese animations in the past. I hope you'll enjoy the read, and I look forward to hearing your comments! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I am a first-time nominator at FLC, so feel free to leave me detailed feedback or conduct in-depth spot checks as necessary. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DBC edit

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the tip, MPGuy2824; done! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks like other reviewers have helped you fix the small issues that were in the list. Support promotion. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Sgubaldo edit

  • Infobox
    • In the infobox, please count each win as having a prior nomination as well (e.g. for Academy Awards, it's currently counted as 1 win and 0 nominations, so change that to 1 win and 1 nomination).
      Done. —TS
    • I'm not sure if it's a standard but, in all other FLs I've seen, runner-up and 3rd places are also counted as wins.
      I'm not very inclined to do this, especially since several sources clearly delineate the winners and runners-up in separate sections. —TS
  • Table
    • Checking the IMDb link,, it's missing a seemingly notable award from the Turkish Film Critics Association (not a dealbreaker if you can't find any sources).
      That's exactly the issue I encountered, which is why this wasn't included. It's worth noting that an article for this yearly event has not been created since 2011, leading me to believe it may no longer be a notable awards ceremony. —TS
    • I feel the article would look a lot nicer if the awards in the table were listed in alphabetical order already without needing to sort by clicking on the column.
      Done. Chronological order made it easier to collaborate with other editors while the film was still receiving awards, but I must admit to also preferring alphabetical order. —TS
  • Lead
    • [...] second hand-drawn production to do so after Miyazaki's 2001 film Spirited Away. ==> This may need a comma after 'so'.
      This seems gramatically correct as is; not done for now. Feel free to correct me if I'm missing something. —TS
    • The film was released on July 14, 2023, by Toho. ==> The film was released theatrically in Japan on July 14, 2023, by Toho.
      Done. —TS
    • After that sentence, I'd add a bit about its release internationally. Perhaps roughly along the lines of "The film had its international premiere at the 2023 Toronto International Film Festival on September 7, and had its theatrical release in the United States on December 8.", but you can write that however you want.
      Done. —TS
  • References
    • The Box Office Mojo reference had BOM as the publisher, but BOM should be the website, and IMDb should be the publisher; also, if you want you can use Template:Cite Box Office Mojo.
      Done. —TS
    • Add Fandango Media as publisher for the Rotten Tomatoes reference.
      Done. —TS

Most of these are pretty minor, well done on your first FLC nomination. Sgubaldo (talk) 16:19, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate the feedback, Sgubaldo! All comments addressed. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 18:25, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Three More
  • In Note e, I don't think you need "(all 2023)" considering it's the Top Ten Films of the Year.
Done. —TS
  • Ref. 31 is missing an author (Kelly Ng)
Done. —TS
  • At the 77th British Academy Film Awards, Miyazaki and Suzuki received Best Animated Film, marking the first time a Japanese-language film had received the award ==> At the 77th British Academy Film Awards, Miyazaki and Suzuki won Best Animated Film, marking the first time a Japanese-language film received the award; just to avoid repetition of received in the same sentence
Done. —TS
  • Two Nitpicks
  • Wikilink Florida Film Critics Circle in Ref. 28 (and change from website to publisher in both Ref. 28 and Ref. 29 to make consistent with all the other critics circle/society/association references)
Thanks for calling these out; I made a few passes to get all of the citations standardized before nominating, but evidently couldn't catch everything! Done. —TS
  • Ref. 2, Ref. 40 and Ref. 43 have Anime News Network as a publisher while Ref. 6 has it as a website; make them consistent.
Done. —TS
A comment on the infobox
One of the reasons I included the point about runners-up and 3rd places being counted as wins is because Template:infobox awards list automatically includes the note:

"Certain award groups do not simply award one winner. They recognize several different recipients, have runners-up, and have third place. Since this is a specific recognition and is different from losing an award, runner-up mentions are considered wins in this award tally. For simplification and to avoid errors, each award in this list has been presumed to have had a prior nomination.".

I appreciate that this is not necessarily the best way to do it (and maybe something to bring up on the template page) but, for the purposes of this FLC, I'd like them to be included as wins. I'm not going to die on this hill though so, after the five comments above are resolved, I'll support.
Ah, I'd forgotten about the note baked into the infobox. This seems like a fairly problematic consequence of the template being inflexible, but now may not be an appropriate moment to propose changes to it for one article. Done for now. —TS
Sgubaldo (talk) 20:12, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sgubaldo: Responses above. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Great work. Sgubaldo (talk) 07:49, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:17, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review edit

I'll do the source review. Numbers from this revision [2].

  • Refs 9 and 10 have contradicting numbers.
  • Refs 11-13, 28, 31, 44 are good.
  • Ref 15 Good
  • Ref 23 Good
  • Ref 28 Good
  • Ref 33 Good
  • Ref 36 Good
  • Ref 40 Good
  • Ref 44 Good
  • Ref 48 Good
  • Ref 55 Good
  • Ref 56 Good.

Everything is archived so just clarify the box office thing and it should be good.Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good to see you, Oli, and thanks for the review! I've removed the Box Office Mojo reference for now as it seems to be out of date — presumably not displaying the film's recent earnings in China. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:08, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good job Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noting for the record that I've replaced the source yet again, this time with one from Deadline Hollywood, as The Numbers seems to have fallen slightly out of date as well. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:48, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey man im josh edit

Source review: Passed

  • Reliable enough for the information being cited
  • Consistent date formatting
  • Consistent and proper reference formatting
  • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
  • Spot checks on 22 sources match what they are being cited for

Feedback:

  • Would writing "Third place" instead of "3rd place" be more appropriate for the December 11, 2023, IndieWire Critics Poll result?
    Sure, why not? The relevant guideline is neutral on this specific situation, but there seems to be a general preference for ordinals being spelled out. —TS
  • Is there a reason you're using linebreaks to put references on new lines? I don't believe this is a best practice and, while I don't believe this is your intention, it sort of looks as though you're trying to separate the references into their own cells.
    The references are in the correct cells to verify the information in their rows as far as I'm aware. I'm using <br> tags to prevent the column from being unnecessarily widened when multiple footnotes are being used, emulating the style I've seen used on many other lists. If you know a better way to do that, do let me know and I'll apply it. —TS
  • Refs column should abbr instead, since some columns have multiple references
    Done. —TS
  • Ref 25 – Change Dallas-Fort Worth Film Critics Association to Dallas–Fort Worth Film Critics Association
    Done. —TS
  • Ref 27 – Add date of December 21, 2024
    Done. —TS
  • Ref 45 – No publish date listed at the source. Archive date should also probably be updated, given that relevant information has since been added to the live page.
    Done. —TS
  • Ref 52 – Not seeing a date at the target that matches up with the December 17, 2023, date listed. Perhaps this was mistakenly added based on a portion of the source stating nominations were announced that day?
    That might have been the case; removed. —TS

I too did a source review, just because you did one for me and I figured it'd be good to help you by being extra thorough with your first (of many I hope) FLC. Very good stuff for your first go of it. Ping me when you reply please. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Appreciate the comments, Josh! Responses are above. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:26, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:32, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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