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List of accolades received by Baahubali: The Beginning edit

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Nominator(s): Krish | Talk 08:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because Baahubali: The Beginning is a very important film for Indian cinema and the articles related to the film deserves to be in great form. I feel it meets the FL criteria. Looking forward to lots of feedback on this.Krish | Talk 08:49, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Kailash
  • "epic fantasy film" - says who? Fantasy, according to me, is a genre that deals with the supernatural and magical, none of which is seen here. Perhaps you could mention somewhere that it is a historical?
  • "Made simultaneously in Tamil and Telugu" - I think it should be "Telugu and Tamil", considering how much priority the makers give the Telugu version, and the fact that the production company is in Andhra Pradesh.
  • "At the 63rd Filmfare Awards South, the film won five awards from ten nominations, including Best Film, Best Director for Rajamouli and Best Supporting Actress for Krishnan" - we know it was the Telugu version that won those awards, so please mention.

More to come soon... Kailash29792 (talk) 06:21, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • "At the 63rd National Film Awards, the film won Best Feature Film and the Best Special Effects" - You could mention that Baahubali was the first ever Telugu film to win in the former category (courtesy, this source). On an unrelated note, I'm not sure if the awards were shared with the Tamil version. Pitiable, since the NFA announcement did not mention the language.
  • I see that, regarding IIFA Utsavam, both the versions were nominated and won in multiple categories (such as Kattappa winning in Tamil and nominated in Telugu, but Sivagami winning in both). Please mention that.
I guess that's it from me. --Kailash29792 (talk) 14:17, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kailash29792: Done (the first one) but I really don't know how to mention the Utsavam awards. It would be too confusing.Krish | Talk 14:48, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Then please ask someone. Or write, at the IIFA Utsavam, both the Tamil and Telugu versions won numerous awards, including Best Supporting Actress in both Tamil and Telugu categories, or something like that. --Kailash29792 (talk) 15:23, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. Just that I show my support for this and hope it becomes TFL-worthy before Baahubali 2's release. --Kailash29792 (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Pavanjandhyala

To the best of my knowledge the list is good, sourcing is nice, alt text and prose are fine. I support this nomination though i have two minor issues with this.

  • "Grossing gross over ₹6.5 billion worldwide against a budget of ₹1.2 billion, the film became the first South Indian film, and the first non-Hindi film to gross over ₹1 billion in the dubbed Hindi version" -- I suggest you to source this as the claim is quite big.
  • "At the 63rd National Film Awards, the film won Best Feature Film,..." -- the Best Feature Film?

That's all from me. ** Pavan Jandhyala ** 14:43, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Pavanjandhyala: Done.Krish | Talk 16:33, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Aoba47
  • I do not believe that the "See also" section is necessary as it add much to the article. While looking through other FLs on film accolades, I did not see a similar section.
  • To the best of my knowledge, you only need to link something in the table on its first mention. For instance, you link Mohan and the film multiple times in the article. Please revise this.
  • @Krish!: Once my comments are addressed, I will support this. Great job with this. Aoba47 (talk) 13:58, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Aoba47: Well, many Indian lists include the "See also" section. Coming to your second point, well, the linking is done for the tables. Someone very early had told me that either link all or just the first appearance, I have always chosen the latter.Krish | Talk 13:30, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for addressing my points. I am still not certain about the value of the "See also" section, but if it is standardized, then it is okay with me. I will support this. Aoba47 (talk) 15:07, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Vedant
  • "the highest grossing film in India and third worldwide" - this can be misleading, you might want to switch to "the third-highest grossing Indian film worldwide".
  • "Grossing over ₹6.5 billion worldwide against" - That's the third occurrence of grossing in close proximity, you might want to rephrase.
  • Be consistent with the use of "the" with the awards.
  • "Both the Tamil and Telugu versions won several awards in the both Tamil and Telugu categories" - "Both the Tamil and Telugu versions won several awards in their​respective categories".

Rest looks fine. NumerounovedantTalk 21:44, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, gets my Support. Good luck getting this promoted in time. NumerounovedantTalk 19:53, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Ssven2

Oppose (from The Rambling Dude)

  • Any reason why no infobox like most other accolades articles?
  • Lead image caption is a complete sentence so needs a full stop.
  • "Made simultaneously in Telugu and Tamil," I think you just mean it was made in both languages.
  • Only 1/3 of the lead actually deals with accolades received by the movie.
  • Link ₹.
  • Why are awards which don't have Wikipedia articles, such as "Ananda Vikatan Awards" even notable enough for inclusion here?
  • "Best Music Director - Tamil" en-dash please, many of these.

The Rambling Man (talk) 01:01, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • @The Rambling Man: Tweaked some of your points. Coming to your concern, well, Indian accolades lists don't the pattern similar to the American lists. Plus every accolades list's lead focuses only 1/3 on the awards (American lists too). I don't know how to fix or link the Indian currency and "Ananda Vikatan Awards" are widely covered by Indian publications. It's just no one has created an article here. I hope I cleared everything. Let me know if you have any more concerns.Krish | Talk 04:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not suggesting you follow "American" lists. But I am strongly concerned with awards that English language Wikipedia does not consider notable being listed here. The Rambling Man (talk) 04:22, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid to say that Ananda Vikatan is among Tamil Nadu's oldest and most famous magazines, so their awards hardly look unnotable. Besides, you wouldn't remove unnotable/unsourced films from filmography tables, would you? --Kailash29792 (talk) 05:43, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I would certainly remove unsourced films (or tag them with [citation needed]), and whether a magazine is old or not doesn't impart notability on any awards, if those awards are truly notable, they'd have an article on Wikipedia. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:51, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thant is not into my hand.Krish | Talk 06:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • ₹? The Rambling Man (talk) 06:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. FYI, that square thingy is not our currency sign. I don't know why it does not work now, it did earlier.Krish | Talk 06:56, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 15:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
* What's the source for it being critically acclaimed? Rotten Tomatoes can't be used for that purpose especially with only five reviews.
  • IIFA Utsavam 2015 seems to be 1st IIFA Utsavam on wikipedia
  • ndashes needed for 30 June-1 July 2016, 24-25 January 2016.
  • and the Best Special Effects, "the" is not needed
  • for PDF references, page numbers should be listed for where the info can be found.
  • India West seems to be on wikipedia as India-West
  • Archive for Reference 5 from the TOI doesn't work "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt."
  • Archive for Reference 4 from Forbes doesn't work. All it shows me is "false".

Shouldn't take too long to fix these. Cowlibob (talk) 20:00, 24 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 16:58, 9 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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