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The list was promoted by SchroCat 15:40, 4 June 2015 [1].

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Nominator(s): Blackhole78 talk | contrib 22:18, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it meets featured list criteria. I based the format of this article on List of Bermuda Twenty20 International cricketers which was just recently promoted. Blackhole78 talk | contrib 22:18, 15 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Cowlibob (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
*Image is missing alt text for accessibility.
Done.
  • T20I should be Twenty20 International.
Done.
  • took place used twice in a sentence. rephrase.
Done.
  • USA is now playing in.... should have as of a certain date even if it's unlikely that US will return.
Done
  • although bowling analysis is the wiki name, I think bowling figures is the more well known term so maybe pipe it.
Done
  • No need for sorting in ODI table as there is only one entry.
Done
  • I know these lists often source Cricinfo only as it's the most comprehensive and reliable but is it possible to add refs from different reliable sources for some diversity?
I could alternate and use CricketArchive for every second player, but IMO I think that would look odd.
  • As it's about the American team, ref dates and any other dates in the list should be m/d/y per their dating convention.
Done
  • Ref 1 is not opening for me, could you check the link is working?
Done

Cowlibob (talk) 09:52, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, sorry about the late response. Real life work got in the way.

Support Good work. Hope this nom gets more attention. Cowlibob (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Littlecarmen (talk) 07:52, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Littlecarmen
  • "A One Day International (ODI) is an international cricket match [...] and is played under the rules of ODI cricket." Isn't it obvious that a sport is played under its rules? Also, remove the duplicate ODI article link. If there is an article about the rules of ODI, link that.
  • "The U.S. played a total of two matches during this tournament and lost them all," -> "lost both"
  • Both Mark and Howard Johnson link to disambiguation pages in the lead.
  • "Staple has claimed more wickets in ODI matches than any other American, having taken two and holds the best bowling figures," Add a comma after "having taken two".
  • Remove the second link to the New Zealand cricket team in the second paragraph.
  • Move the "See also" section above the references.
  • Why do you link ESPNcricinfo 27 times in the references? Leave the first link and remove the rest. Littlecarmen (talk) 20:00, 14 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I believe your concerns have been addressed. I have to thank Cowlibob for doing most of these for me. :) Blackhole78 talk

Support Nice work! I also nominated a list recently. It would be great if you could take a look at it and leave some comments here :) Littlecarmen (talk) 07:52, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments from Crisco
    • Too many "2004"s in the lead.
    • Thirteen players have represented U.S. in ODI matches, of whom nine have played both games. - I'd nix either the "have" in "have played" or change the "both" to two. If you're saying both, that implies there will be no further games, whereas "have played" suggests that there will / may be further games. Personally, I'd go with "Thirteen players have represented U.S. in ODI matches, of whom nine have played two games." since the rest of the paragraph is in the pluperfect.
  • I'd probably have both sentences about Lambert be close together. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Just for clarification. Chris Woodrich=Crisco 1492. Cowlibob (talk) 05:52, 19 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Seattle (talk) 04:33, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Photo is a bit small; can you increase its size?
    • Done.
  • and is playing in the World Cricket League Division Four where does this rank in relation to ODI?
    • I have added an explanatory note which states that "Only the top six associate nations have ODI status. The top six associate nations play in World Cricket League Division One and get there by qualifying through the ICC World Cup Qualifier."
  • Thirteen players have represented U.S. need a "the" preceding the abbreviation
    • Done
  • Clayton Lambert has scored more runs than any other American I don't think that's technically true; Jehan Mubarak, born in Washington DC, scored 704 runs in ODI matches. Can you rework this?
    • Done
  • Can you link "run" somewhere?
    • Done
  • he also has the highest individual score (39) can you add "for the country" to the end of this?
    • Done
  • For what do "100", "50", and "Eco" stand in the table?
    • Added to the key
  • You link "ESPNcricinfo" in reference 2 but not anywhere else? Seattle (talk) 05:14, 27 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Actually, it was previously suggested by Cowlibob that it be only linked once in the references section.
It was actually Littlecarmen not me. Cowlibob (talk) 03:47, 30 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that! :) Blackhole78 talk
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (ping)
Comments from —Vensatry (ping)
  • The "where the United States played its most recent ODI." bit isn't really needed in alt. WP:ALT suggests not use the same details in both caption and alt text.
  • "A One Day International (ODI) is an international cricket match" no need to repeat "international"
  • It could be worth mentioning in the lede that the US has played just two ODIs till now
  • You could add a list of "representative teams" as a FN.
  • I don't think the usage of the word "American" applies correct here. Use the team's name, not nationality.
  • "Ave – Average runs per wicket" -> Ave – Average runs conceded per wicket
  • The tied and NR columns are not necessary in the captains table, so is FN #3
  • The 100s and 50s columns aren't really needed in the table, given that you've already mentioned that Clayton Lambert has the highest individual score for the country (39) in the lede.
  • In the batting avg. column, Nasir Javed should be at the top (in descending order) as technically this is the best amongst all.
  • The Econ. column doesn't isn't sorting properly.
  • Remove the "See also" section since both the links are already covered in the lede.

—Vensatry (ping) 09:54, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Your concerns have been death with. Thank you for your comments. Blackhole78 talk
  • Support I've made a couple of minor tweaks to the lead, but all in all a good list, well done. Harrias talk 13:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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