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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 21:42, 22 March 2010 [1].

List of Smithsonian museums edit

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Nominator(s): Found5dollar (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because I have been working on this list for a long time. I have gone through peer review and addressed all their concerns, and I feel that this list is finally at its finishing point (until a new museum is opened). This is my first time nominating anything for featured anything. I appreciate everyone time and input on this list.Found5dollar (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok Fixed Both, used the USGS image of the mall, and i had the alt text in that navbox before, but some one removed the "Alt" parameter. I replaced it.--Found5dollar (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for resolving the satellite image, but the Washington Monument image still needs more descriptive alt text. "The Washington Monument" isn't helpful to blind readers. Mm40 (talk) 17:45, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok brought it back to what i had originally put as an alt text. Another editor edited it down the "The Washington Monument" a while ago saying that it should be more simple. Apparently he was wrong.--Found5dollar (talk) 17:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 00:36, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Don't particularly like the reference to "museum" twice in the first sentence of the lead.
  • "Additional museums are in ..." presumably you just mean the remaining museums?
  • "Currently" and "(as of 2010)", don't need both. I'd stick with starting the sentence with just "As of 2010,.."
  • I'd quite fancy a link to the US Mint.
  • "The National Museum, which is now known as the Arts and Industries Building,"
    • You've already mentioned the A&I Building, so perhaps this explanation of an alternative name should go with the first mention.
    • The first mention has "The Arts..." not "the Arts..." either way you should be consistent.
  • "and have over 25 million people visit them " -> "and are visited by over 25 million people"?
  • Picture column shouldn't be sortable.
  • The empty picture cell would be best served to include an en-dash rather than leave it blank.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:14, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok i fixed all of your comments except for two. For the first, the two "museums" in the first sentence, i simply can not think of another way of stating this. Should i split it up into two different sentences? The second, the explination of the past name of the Arts and Industries building, I think moving that up to the first mention of the buildign will muddle the sentence. Also, with the first mention I am merley stating special circumstances surrounding two different buildings, while the second time i am getting into the history of the museums as a whole. I feel explaing the past name is more appropiate to the historical section. I can still move it if you disagree, but it is just my thoughts.--Found5dollar (talk) 00:18, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing comments

  • I know I haven't suggested an alternative, but six uses of "museum" in the opening paragraph still reads a little repetitively to me.
Ok think i fixed this. reduced the number of "museums" in the lead paragraph--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "entire Smithsonian collection and offices" at this point, what was the "collection"?
OK fixed this i think--Found5dollar (talk) 02:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "of the Smithsonian Joseph Henry"perhaps a comma before Joseph.
done--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and another, The National Museum " (with The not part of the link) vs "the Arts and Industries Building" (with the not part of the link) - any reason for the odd capital T?
No reason, just typo. Fixed--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "It was opened in 1881 to provide the Smithsonian with its first proper facility for public display of its growing collections" It, its, its... again, a little repetitive for my taste.
Done--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in their collections,[1] and and are " spot the rogue word?
found it and removed it.--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are we sure the images of the buildings comply with the US's freedom of panorama?
I looked into this and from what i understand. in the USA, pictures can be taken of any building so the majority of these pictures are fine.([2]). The only two that may pose a problem are the Hirshhorn and the National Air and Space museum since there are sculptures in the images. Since all these pictures were in Commons already i just assumed that they checked out ok. I will try poking around a bit more to find out for sure if they are ok to use. --Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok i asked here and i have been told that it seems to be ok. I will wait longer and see if anyone else has any problems with any other images.--Found5dollar (talk) 02:21, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the Washington Monument (1), The United States Capitol (7), the Ulysses S. Grant Memorial (8), and the United States Botanic Garden " (see above re:The or the).
Fixed.--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "more than 161 museums" 162? Just that 161 is a bit precise for a statement like this. Perhaps "more than 160"?
ok. Went back to the source and changed it to what it says there.--Found5dollar (talk) 02:11, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Arsenikk (talk) 16:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
  • Ref 5 seems to have a dead link (two days dead now, so not your fault).
Fixed--Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is absolutely no mention of that this is in the United States while discussion either the institution or its geographic location. Unfortunately, this type of systemic bias frequents Wikipedia, particularly in US-centric topics.
Put this in the first sentence.--Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can a more specific "willed" be established: to the federal government for instance?
According to an excerpt of James Smithson's will (found here ) "In the case of the death of my said Nephew without leaving a child or children... I then bequeath the whole of my property subject to the Annuity of One Hundred pounds to John Fitall, & for the security & payment of which I mean Stock to remain in this Country, to the United States of America, to found at Washington, under the name of the Smithsonian Institution, an Establishment for the increase & diffusion of knowledge among men." He was no more specific in the will then "The United States".--Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The history in the lead tends to overfocus on the establishment and less on the growth.
I can not fix this right now, but i will add a paragraph or two tomorrow expanding on that.--Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
added more.--Found5dollar (talk) 23:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • How is the location referenced?
location is referenced on the page of each museum and is usualy evident in one of the two cites for either "type" or "year oppened". if it needs it's own cite i can do that easily. --Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Added refs.--Found5dollar (talk) 02:47, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cooper–Hewitt should have an endash, not a hyphen. See WP:DASH
fixed--Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I believe that the dash where the image is lacking should be an em, not an en.
fixed--Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I find the additional museums almost an appendix. Perhaps it could be merged into the lead or something, or given a more prominent place. It does, after all, constitute an exception to the list, and should therefore be presented before the list itself.
moved section into the headdign of the "Museums" section. --Found5dollar (talk) 03:13, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A most enjoyable list. Brings back fond memories of the couple of days I spent wandering among the museums while visiting DC. Arsenikk (talk) 21:49, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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