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List of Sigourney Weaver performances

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Nominator(s): ~ HAL333 05:14, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I figured it was time to do the filmography of a woman, and who better than the queen of sci-fi? ~ HAL333 05:14, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support and comments from Chidgk1

Great idea - one of my favorite actors

  • As this is a list of her performances perhaps most of the pictures should be related to one or more performances (like the pic of the theatre is), for example are there any good pics of her on a set? The pics already there are great but maybe it would be more interesting for the top pic to be different from the top pic on the Sigourney Weaver article. Also perhaps add a performance name in some pic captions if relevant. Perhaps add more pics if there are any which are good enough quality.
 Done
  • Why are some of her earlier theatre roles blank?
The sources are rare, nearly nonexistent.
  • In Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny did she sing or was she the announcer? Did she sing in Das Lusitania Songspiel? If she sang is her singing ability significant enough to be mentioned in the lead?
I wish I had some good sources and reviews on it, but I don't. ~ HAL333 04:37, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please add "trans-title" on the foreign refs e.g. Benvenuti
 Done
  • Perhaps the note in "In 2009, Weaver reteamed with James Cameron on Avatar, which became the highest grossing film of all time.[note 1]" could be integrated in some way e.g. "In 2009, Weaver reteamed with James Cameron on Avatar, which for a decade was the highest grossing film of all time."
 Done
 Done Thanks for mentioning that. I remember when they did that but I had completely forgotten it when I was writing this. ~ HAL333 04:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you have time could you take a quick look at List of active coal-fired power stations in Turkey and comment at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of active coal fired power stations in Turkey/archive1. Assuming you know nothing about the subject it will be valuable if you could point out anything which is difficult to understand for a first time reader.

Chidgk1 (talk) 06:32, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:19, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
 Done
  • The sorting is not correct for "Alice Goodwin" in the Role column, which currently sorts under A.
 Done
  • Madman points to a dab page. The film does not seem to have an article.
 Done
  • Is there no source that identifies the role she played in that film?
Sources on her role are very thin. I think she may have just had a very minor role because IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes do not give a name for her character. ~ HAL333 04:13, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The film listed as My Depression is actually called My Depression (The Up and Down and Up of It)
 Done
  • No role is listed for her in that film. If the role is not named, then put "unnamed"
 Done
  • 1492 should sort under "fourteen"
 Done
  • If locations and roles for some of her plays are unknown, then put unknown, rather than leaving it blank
 Done
  • In the plays table you use "1984-85", "2001-2" and "2012-2013", so three different formats. The dashes also aren't all the same.
 Done
  • The notes columns on the last two tables are completely blank, so there seems no reason for them to be there
 Done
  • One publisher in the audio books table is in italics but the other two are not - any particular reason?
For some reason, the article for Rabbit Ears Productions has its title in italics. I just repeated that, but I'm not sure that that is correct. Should I just get rid of the italics? ~ HAL333 04:05, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ChrisTheDude I appreciate the advice. How should I sort "Unknown"? ~ HAL333 04:36, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would say just under U as normal..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:54, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChrisTheDude Well now I know. ~ HAL333 13:43, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Her role in Madman is shown as a dash, I think putting "unknown" would be better..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:02, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
One other thing I just noticed - there are two listings for Das Lusitania Songspiel in the plays table, but the note saying that Weaver co-wrote it is against the second. It would make more sense to put it against the first -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:03, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for pointing those out. ~ HAL333 22:27, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 08:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
(Planning to claim WikiCup points for this review.)
  • I'm not convinced that the Guardian source's few words on the topic is good enough to verify: She would reprise the role in two more sequels: Alien 3 (1992) and Alien: Resurrection (1997), both of which were not as well-received. I notice that the Rotten Tomatoes percentages for the four films in the series are based on a large number of critics and would verify this statement.
 Done
  • the Peter Weir-directed The Year of Living Dangerously (1982) – not sure if the "the" in the prose is redundant to the "The" in the title. Same point about the Ang Lee-directed The Ice Storm. Could be fixed by rephrasing (e.g. "The Year of Living Dangerously, directed by Peter Weir") but feel free to disregard if you think it's fine.
I hadn't noticed that aspect - I realize how it can seem repetitive. However, other featured lists do the same and I think it’s the simplest and most streamlined way to write it. ~ HAL333 01:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Golden Globe Award for Best Actress in a Motion Picture – Drama" and the "Best Supporting Actress": is this how you'd say it in a sentence? Doesn't feel very natural. If they have common/abbreviated names, I'd consider just mentioning the films and then in the sentence "Weaver was the first actor to have two acting wins at the Golden Globes in the same year" adding the categories under their common name. Again, this one can be disregarded if you can't find a way to improve it.
I tinkered with that, but it seemed less clear. When I added clarification the sentence just seemed too bulky and awkward. ~ HAL333 04:32, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ridley Scott and Tim Allen don't need the link on second mention in the lead.
 Done
  • What do the slashes in entries like "Angela Nardino/Max Conners/Olga Ivanova" mean? She played multiple characters, or the character has alternate names? Would be good to explain in a footnote.
 Done
  • Would it be worth mentioning in notes when the films were animated, or musicals (e.g. My Depression is both)? Seems like a significant point about the medium.
 Done
  • Should have "1 episode" in notes for Somerset, according to the source.
 Done
  • Are you sure all the redlinks for entries in "Theatre" and "Documentaries" are plausibly notable? No issue if they are, but particularly for the old theatre roles, it seems to me like they could have been plays written for those local performances rather than well-known national plays.
 Done I removed the old theatre plays - the sources are really scarce. I’ll try to make some the the doc articles. ~ HAL333 03:05, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bilorv I'm a little confused on this one. I clarified that she was at the 82nd Academy Awards, but I think you might want me to change something else. She wasn't nominated for any Oscars that year, but went to support Avatar, which had several nominations. I mentioned James Cameron's nomination as she actually spoke specifically of that nomination due to her close friendship with Cameron. How would you like me too change this? ~ HAL333 18:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the ambiguity, my mistake on this one. I mean the Wikimedia Commons description, The red carpet isn't alien to her. Playing off "Avatar's" vibrancy, Sigourney Weaver confidently shows some color at the 82nd Academy Awards, March 7, in Hollywood, Calif. She plays Dr. Grace Augustine in the film. Should be a more simple and factual description of the image. Perhaps it's out of jurisdiction for the FL nomination, but I feel like I've seen Commons descriptions like these appear on some browser version of an image view while still on Wikipedia. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 23:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Bilorv No, that makes perfect sense. It's  Done ~ HAL333 01:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Images should all have alt text so people using a screenreader understand what they're hearing (otherwise the text like "File:Sigourney Weaver (36017523852) (cropped).jpg" is read out verbatim). They've all got captions so something simple like |alt=refer to caption, |alt=photo or |alt=Sigourney Weaver works.
 Done
  • Again for the screenreader audience, the tables should all have captions (which can duplicate the name of the section header and use sronly so that sighted viewers don't have redundancy).
 Done Hopefully I did that correctly. ~ HAL333 18:24, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It looks alright to me, yep. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 08:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Ref numbers all from this permalink.)

  • Ref #53 is Newsweek, yellow at WP:RSP—possibly fine, but I imagine there's better sources for such big films.
 Done
  • Ref #57 and #142 are from Metro, red at WP:RSP so definitely needs a better source.
 Done
  • Ref #59 needs a website name.
 Done
  • Ref #80's "now White" should be "Snow White".
 Done
  • Ref #87 needs a website name.
 Done
  • Ref #114 needs a date.
 Done
  • Refs #118 and #124 missing a couple of details.
 Done
  • Ref #141, IMDb, is not reliable.
 Done
  • Ref #147 could mark the language of the source (Italian?)
 Done
  • "Christopherdurang.com" or "Christopher Durang", pick one to use in refs consistently.
 Done
  • Source spotchecks: #36, #60, #65, #66, #84, #93, #101, #106, #120, #131, #145. Issues are as follows. Ref #84: seems to be the wrong ref, about Gorillas Revisited rather than Prayers for Bobby (a duplicate of the ref cited below for that entry). Ref #93 also seems to be wrong, not about Call My Agent!. Ref #145 doesn't mention Rabbit Ears, which also shouldn't be in italics (regardless of what Rabbit Ears Productions is doing).
 Done

Overall, looks good for a list of this length and detail. Can't see any roles missing or any problem with the scope of the lead. — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 19:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support: happy with the sourcing, comprehensiveness of the list and lead, and all the details above are fixed (except two which I'm happy with the responses with). — Bilorv (Black Lives Matter) 08:05, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Bloom6132 (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • For cells containing multiple years; namely, "1984—85" (Hurlyburly row), "2001—02" (The Guys row), and "2012—13" (Vanya and Sonia and Masha and Spike row), you might want to use the shorter en dash instead. This will also make it consistent with the formatting in "1973–74" (Watergate Classics) and "1986–87" (The Merchant of Venice).
  • "… one of the most significant female protagonists in cinema history, and, consequently, Weaver is considered …" The "and" sandwiched in-between two commas reads kind of awkwardly. Three alternatives you might want to consider: (1) remove the "and" + split into 2 separate sentences (starting at "Consequently"); (2) remove the "and" + use a semicolon before "consequently); or (3) remove the second comma after "and".
I went with option 3. ~ HAL333 01:47, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In 1994, she appeared in another Polanski film" – just curious, which one was the first? Might be good to wikilink his full name, since it isn't mentioned anywhere else in the article.
Thanks for pointing that out. I think I was putting Woody Allen and Polanski in the same boat. ~ HAL333 01:45, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Read the prose in detail – everything else looks all good.
  • Images utilized are licensed and tagged, with appropriate alt text.

—Bloom6132 (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bloom6132 All done. ~ HAL333 01:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – all comments addressed. I just made one minor edit re. en dashes (–) as opposed to hyphens (-). Looks to me like it meets all 6 FL criteria. Great work! —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. could I please trouble you to have a look at my FLC when you have the time? Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I am participating in the WikiCup, and intend to claim points from the above review. —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 22:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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