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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 06:14, 22 June 2008 [1].

List of Scottish football clubs in the FA Cup edit

This is a complete record of all appearances by Scottish clubs in the FA Cup, England's premier knockout (elimination) football competition. Let me know what you think....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "Although the Cup is organised by The Football Association, the governing body of the sport in England, and in the modern era is open only to clubs playing in FA-affiliated leagues," → "Although the Cup is organised by The Football Association, the governing body of the sport in England, and is open only to clubs playing in FA-affiliated leagues in the modern era,"? So that it's "is organised... is open"
  • "The Glasgow team were by far the dominant force in Scottish football, to the extent that no other team had even managed to score a goal against them, but at the time there was no cup competition in Scotland for them to enter." — Doesn't read very well. Rephrase suggested.

Gary King (talk) 07:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment

  • Do Gretna count as a Scottish club? They were members of the FA at that time, not the SFA. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 08:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • So were Queen's Park in the 1870s. The key fact is that they are/were geographically based in Scotland as opposed to England....... ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I'm not sure that "The Football Club History Database" is a reliable source. Do you know if they have any reputation for fact-checking or that they fit any other qualities of WP:RS? Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 01:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can vouch for the reliabilty of FCHD, which is regarded as reliable by WP:FOOTBALL. For further information see http://www.fchd.btinternet.co.uk/sources.htm, or ask the webmaster, who is an active Wikipedian (User:Richard Rundle). Oldelpaso (talk) 10:18, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support - My sole concern now having been addressed, I support this list. Good job with it! Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 14:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "After this date"—A year's not a date. Why not "Since then,"?
  • "Reached 2nd round but then withdrew"—but? and. Remove "then". I presume they didn't play the second round, but just reached it.
  • Cr 6: Columns two and three are very wide; can you force them to be narrower?
  • Tell me, is this Sports Illustrated site reliable and sufficiently authoritative? Where do their authors get their info from? Why not go to the original sources/databases that they use? Checked with someone else: yes, authoritative. TONY (talk) 08:07, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All points addressed, I think........... ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • "...in FA-affiliated leagues in the modern era..." - this doesn't make it clear that it generally excludes Scottish clubs right now.
  • "...primarily in its early years...." sorry to be uberpicky but it's not clear whether "its" refers to the competition or Scotland...!
  • " north of the border " - I know what you mean, and I like the prose, but it's got to be clear what we're talking about here for non-UK, non-football experts..
  • I'd be tempted to say Gretna F.C. the first time since you've got Gretna pipelinked twice in consecutive sentences - I'm always wary about that kind of thing.
  • Last sentence in the lead uses [18] twice. Don't bother.
  • On my 1280 px wide screen, I could reduce the Season, Round, Club, and Ref cols to expand the Notes col so it doesn't creep over to two lines. See if it works?
  • BBC link could be BBC Sport (as publisher). Similarly, while not mandated, you could link things like Sport Illustrated too.
    • Ask Albert. How cool. I worked with Albert's son for a while. His dad's a legend. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's it from me. Feel free to ignore because mostly it's personal pref... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All done, I think. Upon re-reading the bit about QP I find that no team at all had scored a goal against them. As they might have already played some English teams (it doesn't say) I just removed the qualifier about "north of the border"..... ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. All my comments / concerns were dealt with at the PR stage. Fits the FLC criteria. Peanut4 (talk) 20:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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