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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 05:22, 14 September 2008 [1].

List of Olympic records in athletics edit

It's been a while for me to try a list but since the 'lympics are done and dusted now, this list is suitably stable (well, at least for four more years or unless a doping scandal hits...) and I've enjoyed researching it. The biggest challenge was to find up-to-date references for the older records, but a combination of IAAF and Olympic references have been used where required. Let me know what you think. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:06, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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    • I don't think the key at the top on the article should be in small text. It is hard to read.
      • Agreed, that wasn't my idea. Fixed.
    • I don't like the large white space between the men's record and the women's record
      • Well I didn't like the way you'd rearranged the images, if the white space is too much then I'll remove one of the images.
        • I just want to help. You can arrange it any way you want.—Chris! ct 19:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • I didn't mean to appear ungrateful and rude, I'm sorry! I've removed some of the images so no massive white space issues remain. Thanks for your comments and support. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The last sentence in the lead should have a reference
      • Not really - it's obvious from the table and each record there is cited. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

—Chris! ct 00:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay. Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great list. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 15:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • CommentsSupport
Resolved comments from Crzycheetah 20:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The athletics events which… - I'd use commas in this sentence
      • Not 100% convinced but I've added them - see what you think.
    • Can you name the 24th event that men do, but women don't?
      • Not that straight forward as men do decathlon, women do heptathlon, and men do the 50km walk which has no women's analogy. Any way you can think of making that snappy enough to read well in the lead? The information is all in the table after all.
        • you can squeeze this information somewhere in that third paragraph to save readers' time. That paragraph is quite short, anyway.--Crzycheetah 08:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • I've squeezed the info in, hopefully appropriately. Let me know what you think. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • …broken but illegally - Maybe, it's British grammar that I don't understand, but it sounds a little oxymoronic to me.
      • Not convinced British grammar has a part to play- the records were broken illegally. But, since it sounds like it doesn't appeal to the US-ear, I'll have a fiddle with it. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • It looks fine now. The key word is "later". --Crzycheetah 08:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The fact that men run 110m hurdles while women run 100m hurdles can be mentioned in the lead.
      • See above - men do the decathlon and women do the heptathlon as well - there are a few of these and I'm not sure how much relevance that detail has in the lead about the Olympic records. Can you suggest an elegant way of introducing these ideas? I'll see if I can develop something... The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • In the men's table, you have the steeplechase after 400 hurdles while in the women's table, it's listed after 20km walk. How about consistency?
      • How about that. Probably how I inherited it. The table is sortable anyway, but I'll fix it. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The ♦ row would be better italicized.
      • I don't like italics really. This is subjective - I had toyed with adding colour in the results column along with the diamond to emphasise the record, would that be better? The Rambling Man (talk) 07:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Sorry for the confusion, I meant the diamond note "denotes a performance…". That one-row table looks unusual in the lead.
          • Okay, first off Gary made it 95% font size, which I undid, now he's put it in a table, which you want to undo and make italics. It's turning into a micro-edit war! I'll see what I can do to appease all editors. Cheers for the clarification nevertheless. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • --Crzycheetah 03:51, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • …1988, Canadian sprinter - This sentence needs at least one more comma somewhere, preferably before "but".
      • That 3rd paragraph remains very short. Maybe, you could expand/merge?
        • I've expanded it a little with some more detail on Beamon's record. Is it okay? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--Crzycheetah 21:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from Struway2 (talk) 09:16, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Just wondering, why link no event in the 1st para, but link long jump in the 3rd para?
  • (Sorry to join in the edit-war :-) Suggest repeating the "♦ denotes a performance..." directly above both Men's records and Women's records tables. If the reader goes straight to the Women's records from the TOC they miss it.
  • Would Record be a more appropriate column heading than Result?
  • Are the flags in the Games column necessary? and are they MoS-compliant?
    • No. And you're right, they fall foul of the MOS under "Help the reader rather than decorate" in my opnion, so they've gone. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for your comments Struway! The Rambling Man (talk) 11:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also, "Olympic records in individual events have been achieved at each Olympiad". Is that a fact? Struway2 (talk) 07:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Almost certainly but you're right in your implication, ie. can I prove it? Not easily and it'll end up being a bit OR-ish so I've rephrased. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, note 10 needs a publication date, and you may want to clarify the first the time of using that Beijing 2008 is the official website of the 2008 games. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 09:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • As I would fully expect from the FL director, an exemplary job! Great work, Rambling Man! Support from Killervogel5
  • Three minor things for TRM's consideration: (a) inconsistency in whether names are wikilinked in captions; (b) can you avoid using both "records" and "recorded" (set?) in Bolt's caption? (c) should "Decathlon" be given a capital "D" in the caption when "high jump" isn't similarly treated? BencherliteTalk 18:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Minor perhaps, but necessary. All fixed, hopefully to your satisfaction. Thanks for your comments. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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