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List of New Jersey Devils players edit

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 10 days, 6 support, 0 oppose. Promote. --MarcK 11:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Self-nom. Diff. I think it meets all the requirements, it being factually accurate, uncontroversial, useful, stable, comprehensive, well-constructed and it complies with the manual of style. This is my first list nom, so I hope I did this correctly. BsroiaadnTalk 13:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak oppose Support: there are 30 players who don't have a wikipage. It will be good if you can create atleast stub articles for these before this list is promoted. --Kalyan 16:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*Reply: Alright, I'll start doing those now and will finish them hopefully by tonight, as I don't have a lot of time to do everything tonight. BsroiaadnTalk 20:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC) [reply]
  • Reply: I've gone through all the red-links in "Goaltenders", I should have all the Skaters done by tomorrow night (but probably a lot sooner). BsroiaadnTalk 00:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply - All the redlinks have been taken care of. BsroiaadnTalk 19:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Oppose: It's set up like the List of Colorado Avalanche players, which is also a featured list. However, it needs some photos of Devils players put up in the side margin, as was done on the Avalanche article. Add some of those photos, and I will support it. Kaiser matias 21:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support My objection was fixed. Kaiser matias 03:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply I've added two pictures, I'll try to find more. I'm pretty sure I got all of the ones (except Jim Dowd whom I can't come up with a good reason for at the moment) of players in Devils uniforms, from here on out it'll most likely just be pictures like Brendan Shanahans where it's of the right player, but wearing another teams jersey. BsroiaadnTalk 00:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. As a person who helped Bsroiaadn put this article together, it is very factually accurate. We consulted multiple sources for information and we think we got it all right after a bunch of calculating and double-checking. We had a few pictures, but we decided to keep them off as I don't believe it is a prereq for FL, and in the case of the Devils, it doesn't seem to make an enormous amount of sense. There are just not that many good pictures out there of Devils players or big players who have played for the Devils...it almost makes more sense to keep images off altogether than just have one or two players on there as Devils. This was an issue in the Avalanche FLC as well, and after consulting, Bsroiaadn decided it was best to test the waters here without any pictures. What does everyone think? JHMM13 04:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Nice job, I know the Colorado article spurred a lot of activity on this (including my own sandbox, but I've been so busy I haven't had an opportunity to work more on it... good to know I don't have to finish lol). Having said that, I see a few minor problems.
The lead is WAY too short. I know there's not a lot to be said, but we can add a little bit more; look at the lead of the Colorado article and work off that. Include how many players overall have played, how many have won a Stanley Cup with them, how many have played multiple stints (I think it's 13, according to the Media Guide).
The captions on the pictures could use a copyedit. Example: "Jim Dowd was traded the season after winning the 1995 Stanley Cup and had been trying to get back every year and finally did in 2006." It just doesn't flow right. Talk about how he's the only NJ native to play for the Devils, not a long convoluted sentence.
Why are the column headings seemingly randomly distributed throughout the table? I think I know why (so you don't have to scroll all the way back up top to see which column you're reading), but it's a distraction.
Could we utilize a shade of red for the SC winners, if only to go along with the team colors? If it's too much of a distraction, I understand; I just didn't want it to look EXACTLY like the Colorado one.
I don't have a major problem with the redlinks; I know they'll get filled in shortly.

Once these are addressed (and I don't see it taking long), I'll change my vote. Then once I finish up working on the draft picks, we can put that up for FLC, and then work on making the Devils a featured topic! Anthony Hit me up... 19:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reply - The lead I'll get to shortly, after I finish off the redlinks, I thought I would be done by now but a lot of stuff has come up within the past 24 hours but I should be done with them tomorrow. I changed the Jim Dowd caption and added pictures of Zach Parise and Alexander Mogilny. Yes, that's exactly why the headers were there but I just took them all out. And I would love to use a shade of red because it's a team color, but I think the blue would go along better with the other hockey-related articles, New Jersey Devils seasons for example. BsroiaadnTalk 02:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Looking good, now just fix the lead and I'll gladly support this. Anthony Hit me up... 03:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, fixed the lead. Hope I got everything you wanted in there. BsroiaadnTalk 17:58, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support - All issues addressed (I made a minor fix to the lead myself). Looks good, and we're ready to roll. Good to see so many Devils fans on Wikipedia working to make it better! Anthony Hit me up... 18:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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