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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Lionhead Studios games edit

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Nominator(s): PresN 20:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is the second of a pair of lists that chart the rise and fall of Peter Molyneux... this one being the fall. Molyneux and his Bullfrog Productions studio had been famous and successful in the 90s for creating innovative games, and having broken free of EA to found Lionhead Studios, Molyneux was prepared to replicate that success without the stifling corporate oversight. And, for a time, it worked- they came out of the gate strong with the creative Black & White and Fable. And then Black & White 2 didn't sell well, and neither did The Movies, a business simulation/movie making game that had the misfortune of coming out just before YouTube became a thing, and in the background Lionhead was hemorrhaging cash on projects that never seemed to turn into sellable games, so just like Bullfrog and EA, Lionhead was bought by their publisher, Microsoft. And again like Bullfrog and EA, Microsoft turned it into just the Fable developers, and it released 5 more games in the franchise before being shut down.

All of this wouldn't mean the fall of Molyneux, though, except that this was the era that his mouth finally got him in trouble. Molyneux had always talked a big game, but in the 2000s it got away from him- he would promise game features that didn't work yet (and never did), and would even tell the press things would be in a game that were just an idea he just had that he hadn't even told the devs yet. By the time he left Lionhead, he was synonymous with radical, innovative over-promising, and he hasn't released a full game since. This is all just flavor text, though- this is a list of games in the end, including a bunch of cancelled games because, like Bullfrog, Lionhead was really open about that. This list follows the pattern of all the prior lists I've done on 90s/early 2000s developers (3D Realms/id/Raven/Epic/Firaxis/Blizzard/Relic/Bullfrog), so I hope you enjoy it, and thanks for reviewing. --PresN 20:55, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments edit

  • Does the single reference at the end of the first paragraph source the entire paragraph?
  • "Shooter game, Music game" - music probably doesn't need a capital
  • That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 19:07, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Yes it does, and fixed. Thanks! --PresN 03:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dank edit

  • Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
  • Checking the FLC criteria:
  • 1. I couldn't find anything to copyedit. There are no sortable columns. I sampled the links in the table.
  • 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
  • 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
  • 3b. The UPSD tool is marking two refs in red, so as usual, I'll come back and have another look after a source review is done. But I'm not expecting to see anything troubling ... AFAICT, the New York Post and YouTube material isn't problematic.
  • 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
  • 4. It is navigable.
  • 5. It has no images; there's an image available of Molyneux, but that's your call.
  • 6. It is stable.
  • Close enough for a support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 00:53, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – Reliability and formatting of the sources look okay throughout, and the link-checker tool doesn't flag any issues. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:18, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Returning as promised ... no problems I can see. - Dank (push to talk) 21:24, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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