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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Dabomb87 04:21, 18 July 2010 [1].

List of Kraft Nabisco Championship champions edit

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Nominator(s): BLUEDOGTN 22:47, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is like the men's major championships one like List of Masters Tournament champions, which I believe this is equal quality. BLUEDOGTN 22:47, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • For starters why not convert ref #1 to a general ref and perhaps cite the individual tournaments to individual sources? Staxringold talkcontribs 01:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am working on it tell me how you think that I am doing.BLUEDOGTN 03:15, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So far, 1992, 1994 and 2001 I was not able to find them!BLUEDOGTN 03:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Got them all, I think this one is about their or getting closer!BLUEDOGTN 04:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Wish there was more for the lead, but looks good. Any of the champs lefty? Staxringold talk<span style="position: relative; left: -16px; margin-right: -16px;"contribs 00:55, 7 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not to my recollection, which I don't know of any left-handed female players in all of golfing history!BLUEDOGTN 00:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support It needed some cleanup for grammar and writing style, which I have done. The basic article is now very sound and this is an important addition to the collection of articles on women's professional golf. The data well-collected and presents and this provides information that is not readily found anywhere else online. --Crunch (talk)

  • Comment All newspapers in the references should be italicized. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:17, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done on this and all the articles in this series, thanks for the comment.BLUEDOGTN 14:51, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Find a link (or explanation) for "stroke play".
Fixed (Found link)BLUEDOGTN 02:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "always been conducted in stroke play competition, and is always the first women's major championship of the year. It has also always" okay, it may have been "always" everything, but three times is dull prose for me, can you rework it to be engaging?
FixedBLUEDOGTN 02:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The lowest winning score is" this needs hyphenation, but it also needs explaining that the "lowest winning score" is the best, not the worst, which most non-experts would assume.
Fixed (Found links)BLUEDOGTN 02:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notes col should be Ref really. Move the note to the col which is most relevant.
FixedBLUEDOGTN 02:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just a quick question, should a "minus" really use an en-dash?
It does not matter as much as the displaying does, which the en-dash could be used to signify minus. I would have to say that in golf they do say minus and plus with relation to par in scoring though!BLUEDOGTN 02:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why have deceased in the key when it's not used?
Fixed took outBLUEDOGTN 02:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – Finally, someone has created a list related to women's golf. Took way too long, I believe. If you look at my editing history, I know a little something about working on bios on the field. (Okay, bio. Same difference.) So this is perfect for me to review. Note that a couple of these may also applpy to the other lists in this budding series.

  • First and most importantly, why are the winners from 1972 to 1982 not included in the table? Because it wasn't a major championship? Personally I feel that if the tournament was held in a given year, it should be included as long as reliable sources can be found to prove the facts. There should be Google News articles on the old tournaments like the ones used already, and if needed, I have almanacs that cover the winners and their scores, though no par totals are given.
Then I would have to change the navbox at the bottom of each page because it says major champions, which means non-major champions are not included in the articles.BLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • The comma after "This event has been conducted in stroke play competition" should be removed.
FixedBLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would be nice to include a few more statistical details in the lead. The ones I'm thinking of in particular are the first and most recent winners, and perhaps the number of players to win more than once. The latter stat is not as important to this list since there are few multiple champions, but it would be useful for the LPGA Championship and U.S. Women's Open lists in particluar.
Fixed your first suggestion, not many more stats I could put into the lead with out going into trivia.BLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Something about the last sentence in the lead doesn't agree with me. It just looks too long and winding. How about something like, "The fewest amount of strokes required to complete 72 holes in the tournament's history, and therefore the best score, is Dottie Pepper's 269 (19-under-par) in 1999."
FixedBLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note a could use citation.
FixedBLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 25 shouldn't have part of the title in all capital letters.
FixedBLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FixedBLUEDOGTN 03:08, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Couple more things I noticed while checking the changes: References 12 and 22 also have unwanted all caps, and reference 32 (the one now citing note a) should have an indication that it is in PDF format. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 00:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed!!69.137.121.17 (talk) 00:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on 3a grounds. Not including Jane Blalock-Sally Little means this list doesn't do what it says it does. As it stands the list acts like the championship began in '83, which it didn't. This isn't a list of major winners, which would rightly leave off the first 11 winners, this is a list of winners of a specific tournament. Courcelles (talk) 21:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then you could say the navbox is wrong because it says major champions not LPGA Tour winners now does it! So, they must be left off the lists because if the navboxes are suppose to be correct and not made a hideous laughing stock by putting in the non-major winners. By the way, we don't make lists to highlight non-major tournaments or winners in the golf project, we only reserve them for major winners and championship tournaments only! Until we get this resolved I will not fix any other errors with these or this article because we will encounter the same junk with the du Maurier Classic article and the Women's British Open article! I cannot in good faith allow them to be included in these articles because they were not sanctioned as major champions and major championship period end of story! If it must fail because of this little diff than so be it!BLUEDOGTN 23:56, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ending involvement by nominator mark article as failed if 3a has to be met because these articles were not meant for that purpose at all! I am out Bluedogtn! See you all later!69.137.121.17 (talk) 23:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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