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List of Italy national football team hat-tricks edit

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Nominator(s): Dr Salvus 22:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In July, it was suggested by TheSandDoctor to me to create a FL nomation in this peer review. This article has a photo, has a good lead, is understable, the content is sourced, it has never had any edit war recently. Before nominating it, I read the criterias (I didn't do it in my previous nominations) Dr Salvus 22:31, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk)
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  • "As of 11 June 2019" - that was more than two and a half years ago and doesn't fill me with confidence that the article is complete and up to date..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:27, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude Italy's players haven't been scoring a hat-trick since 2017. (Should I cite a source which says so?) Does this mean I should change the date 11 June 2019 into a more recent day? aDr Salvus 08:52, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, change it to a more recent date so that at least people don't think it's been sitting there not being updated for over two years -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:37, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude  Done Dr Salvus 17:44, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Further comments
  • Don't link players multiple times in the lead
  • Brazil is not wikilinked in the lead
  • In the last paragraph you show Italy's score first in the first game mentioned but not in the other two.
  • Think that's all I've got -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude, I've fixed. However, you might've been wrong (or I've misunderstood) as in the last paragraph all the three results have been shown Dr Salvus 20:41, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My point about the last paragraph is that you list the scores differently - for the first one you show it as a 3-4 defeat (Italy's score first) but you show the other two as 4-1 defeats (Italy's score second) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:33, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude ok, now I've understood clear. I've just fixed Dr Salvus 21:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB) edit

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! Player becomes !scope=col | Player.
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | {{sortname|Pietro|Lana}}||[[Exhibition game|Friendly]] ... becomes !scope=row | {{sortname|Pietro|Lana}} <line break> | [[Exhibition game|Friendly]]....
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. --PresN 02:09, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

*:@PresN I've done what you've said except for the last indication because the line breaks don't work well. This is the table with the changes you've suggested.

Hat-tricks scored by Italy national football team
Player Competition Against Venue Result Goals Date Ref(s)
Pietro Lana <line break> |Friendly  France Arena Civica, Milan 6–2 3 15 May 1910
[1]
  1. ^ "Italy v France football match, 15 May 1910". eu-football.info. 15 May 1910.
Dr Salvus 22:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr Salvus: - you haven't done it quite right. It need to be like this:
Hat-tricks scored by Italy national football team
Player Competition Against Venue Result Goals Date Ref(s)
Pietro Lana Friendly  France Arena Civica, Milan 6–2 3 15 May 1910
[1]
  1. ^ "Italy v France football match, 15 May 1910". eu-football.info. 15 May 1910.
Hope that helps! - ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:35, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much @ChrisTheDude. @PresN  Done Dr Salvus 14:43, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN Anything? Dr Salvus 18:25, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from NapHit (talk)
Comments
  • 'Luigi Riva with three hat-tricks has scored the highest number of hat-tricks for Italy.' needs to be a comma after Riva and after tricks
  • "In the 1982 FIFA World Cup match against Brazil, Paolo Rossi scored a hat-trick, considered one of the most famous of all time." I think it would provide more content for the reader if you said at which state of the competition the match took place. Doesn't really indicate why the hat-trick was so famous, which also needs to be expanded on too I feel. What makes it famous?
  • "The most recent hat-trick in an official match was by Alberto Gilardino in Italy's victory over Cyprus on 14 October 2009, during the 2010 FIFA World Cup qualification." Need a reference for this
  • "The first conceded by Italy was scored by Eugène Maës in a 4–3 defeat by France on 17 March 1912." change to "Eugène Maës was the first player to score a hat-trick against Italy in France's 4–3 victory on 17 March 1912."
  • "The last was scored by Safet Sušić during the 4–1 defeat by Yugoslavia in a friendly match on 13 June 1979." needs referencing and change by to against
  • The ref column should be unsortable
  • Looking at other lists that are featured, none of them include hat-tricks in unofficial matches. I don't think we should be including these matches and should stick to official matches only
    • This is still mentioned in the lead, and I'm not sure if these matches are still in the tables. If they are, they should be removed. NapHit (talk) 12:13, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Big concerns over the use of eu-football.info, which doesn't appear to be a reliable source as far as I can see. Can't see anywhere on the site to verify where the data came from.
  • Also the dates on those refs are the dates the games were played not the date they were retrieved. If it's deemed they are reliable, then that will need to be changed.
  • En dashes should be used in references. Ref 33 is an example of one of many
  • Image in lead needs alt text
    • The alt text should describe the image. So Paolo Rossi isn't sufficient, it should describe what a visually impaired user should see. NapHit (talk) 12:13, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Al in all, a decent list but a fair bit of work to bring it up to standard I feel. NapHit (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NapHit  Done Dr Salvus 16:43, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Most of my issues have been resolved and I've replied to some that haven't above, but there's still an issue with the formatting of the references. RSSSF refs need the date and authors included, which can be found at the bottom of the pages and you need to format the dates as such, for example, 10 October 2021, you currently have 20221-10-10. Also, it should be Rec. Sport Soccer Statistics Foundation, not wwww.rsssf.com. NapHit (talk) 12:13, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@NapHit:  Done but I can't find the date, in the bottom of the RSSSF pages there are only the author and the date of the last update. I've also removed the unofficial friendly in the lead and I've improved the ALT text. Please, notice that the FIGC Centenary is an official friendly. Dr Salvus 14:38, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The last updated date is the one to use. NapHit (talk) 14:40, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@NapHit  Done Dr Salvus 14:46, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Happy to support now my concerns have been addressed. NapHit (talk) 16:51, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – All of the references appear reliable and well-formatted, and no issues were detected by the link-checker tool. Everything looks okay on the sourcing front. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 02:42, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@WP:FLC director and delegates: the bot hasn't updated this yet. What migth be causing this problem? Dr Salvus 19:41, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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