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List of Ipswich Town F.C. managers edit

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 10 days, 8 support, 0 oppose. Promote. Scorpion0422 15:42, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Based on the existing featured list List of Aston Villa F.C. managers, this is simply as it's called, a list of Ipswich Town managers. I'd very much appreciate thoughts or opinions on how I can get the article to featured status. Thanks for your time. The Rambling Man 17:34, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support All my comments have been dealt with. Good work. I hope the list gets much longer over the next few years. --Dweller 21:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I'd say it easily meets the criteria. Excellent, considering what little time it took to make! But, just a couple of things to bring up. I think the "present" for Jim Magilton needs to be capitalised and the references which use the "Pride of Anglia" websites titles need the "managerial stats" removing. Cheers, Mattythewhite 17:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Matty, both suggestions implemented... The Rambling Man 17:13, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, and the reference entitled "Ipswich's managerless record" should be renamed "None".. Mattythewhite 17:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, alright then! The Rambling Man 17:21, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, meets all the criteria as far as i can see. I would suggest that you wikilink the dates in the honours to the xxxx-xx in English football articles. Whilst you are at it you could fix the pipes to avoid redirects. Football League Division One is at Football League First Division. Great work. Woodym555 17:25, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorted Woody, thanks for the pointers and the support... The Rambling Man 17:33, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment All seems well with the list itself. While I dislike win% figures, regarding them as a misleading indicator of performance, I realise this is ultimately a matter of personal preference. I think the lead could be improved though.
    • Sheepshanks has been at Ipswich for years, so presumably he has appointed several managers. Mentioning him at the end gives the impression that Magilton is the only manager he selected.
    • The long sentence introducing Ramsey could do with splitting in two. I'd also remove the "further" - Ramsay's achievements were firsts for the club.
    • eight appointments in 46 years... ...the club employed its next eight managers in roughly half as long. The footnote is a bit of a cop-out. I don't think any punchiness would be lost by giving a fuller explanation in the text. Oldelpaso 18:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Good and fair comments. I'll get onto it when I wake up..! Thanks for your time.. The Rambling Man 21:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        I think I've addressed them all now, a bit of expansion on Sheepshank's era, split the sentence and removed the footnote...The Rambling Man 07:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, the standard is fine. You should now add a link to it from the Managers section of Ipswich Town F.C. (either a main article: or for more details... template I guess). The only minor problem I have with it is that Ipswich haven't really had that many managers, so it doesn't seem to add that much information to what is already covered in the Managers section in the ITFC article. Still useful though. --Jameboy 21:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree with Jameboy. What made the Villa managers list so long was the unenviable talent of Doug Ellis to hire and fire managers. Perhaps you could have a notable managers section in the main Ipswich article. (That is what we did at Aston Villa F.C.. For us, it was a much shorter list!! Woodym555 22:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      Well, what I've done is to remove anyone with less than 50 matches under their belt - could have been "selected managers" but that's subjective, and added a {{main}} template from the article to the list. Hopefully that kind of satisfies these issues... Cheers for your time and comments. The Rambling Man 07:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - excellent work, as one has come to expect from The Rambling Man. One slight query - presumably someone must have at the very least picked the team for the 11 matches in 1937, is there any source to say who this might have been.....? ChrisTheDude 08:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I wonder... it's difficult enough though getting accurate stats from back then, let alone more info. I'll look into it. Thanks for the comment and support. The Rambling Man 09:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support An excellent list which meets all the criteria. One minor issue in the lead: "the club employed its next eight managers in the next 25 years." I'm not too keen on repeating "next", perhaps it would read better as "in the following 25 years"? Dave101→talk  16:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Cool, made a minor reword to alleviate the repetition of next as advised, thanks... The Rambling Man 16:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Only thing is maybe a ref for the no-one on the link it says Mick O'Brien's suprise departure just before the start of the 1937/38 season left Town managerless for just over three months. maybe something like that? Anyway good list and has my support Everlast1910 17:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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