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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 07:10, 4 July 2008 [1].

List of Indianapolis Colts head coaches

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Well I finally got around to creating this article and I've doubled checked everything to make sure it is worthy of FL status. The only thing I've seen wrong with it is that it has 1 red link (Joe Thomas). I was going to create an article but I know absolutely nothing about him and there are minimal references for him. Besides FL criteria states "minimal proportion of red links." so it should be okay. HoosierStateTalk 14:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Rambling Man (talk · contribs)
  • Opening sentence is boring, a verbatim copy of the title of the list with "This is a ..." added.
  • (17 total) is confusing.
  • "March of 1984" -> March 1984.
  • I prefer to explain NFL before using it as an abbreviation.
  • "...by at least one major news organization. Additionally, Ewbank and Shula are members of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, having been inducted in 1978 and 1997 respectively." - citations?
  • W/L records need an en-dash, not a hyphen.
  • "managing to win 2 games, and finished the season at 2-12" - two and tenses change mid-sentence.
  • "Then 2005 Tony Dungy was forced to miss the 15th game of the season due to personal issues and Jim Caldwell was named as the one game interim.[4]"- this is nowhere near English I'm afraid. Copyedit required.
  • Loses in the Key should be Losses.
  • W – L doesn't need the spaces.
  • Confirm all coach awards are cited.

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Just 2 for now.

  • "This is a complete list of Indianapolis Colts head coaches." I would hope it is complete if it's featured. Repeating the article title is also a boring way to introduce the article. Try no use something which engages the reader.
  • Most of the other FLs of this genre don't use a bullet to identify those who spent their entire career with the team. Try to be consistent with those.

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    •  Done, Also after looking at the other articles like this, I noticed there isn't really any consensus on how to show coaches that spent their entire career with their respective franchise. So I just removed the symbols and stuck with color solely. HoosierStateTalk 06:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • You can't do that per WP:ACCESS. If you use colour, you must use a text based marker for those who are colourblind or have a black and white monitor, or who are accessing a printed version of the article. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 06:51, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Duh! I knew that, it's fixed. Backing up to when I used the bullets, I was using the Green Bay Packers version of this article as a guide and they had bullets so it ended up the same way over here. HoosierStateTalk 06:55, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prose is ordinary; MOS breaches.

  • Please read MOS on en dashes.
  • "He also led" --> "; he led". And please remove the ugly "Additionally".
  • Sentence case in table text (e.g., "Games Coached"). TONY (talk) 09:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Keith Molesworth became the first coach of the Baltimore Colts in 1953 but he was reassigned to a different position with the team following the season." No: "... 1953, but was ...".
  • Comment
    • Not all done - en-dash needed instead of hyphen in the lead.
    • No bold links in the lead.
    • Prose, as Tony said, is very plain.
    • Why no article for Thomas? Makes the linking out from the list incomplete, which is a pity.

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      •  Done, everything you commented on is fixed. The only thing is, I only changed the lead of the article a little bit. I honestly don't know what else I could do to make it better. I looked at every other FL list like this and they're all similar to what this list has. HoosierStateTalk 22:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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