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The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 12:25, 31 August 2008 [1].

List of Governors of Alaska edit

Continuing the string of, most recently, PA, NY, and the basic templates from AL and WI. The only issues I have with the list as it currently is are the list of the commanders of the department (a paucity of sources) and the party colors in the territory tables. I've only used the parties of the presidents who appointed them, and have not tried to find out their own personal party, which I don't think matters for an appointed post. Should I remove the colors, or try to find out what political leanings they held? --Golbez (talk) 00:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments
    • "The following is a list of the Governors of the State of Alaska " is now being avoided. I know the previous lists all passed like that and WP:LIST still says it's fine but it isn't. We don't have featured articles starting "The following is an article about X" so now we're trying to avoid the same for FLs. Perhaps introduce the article with something like "Since 1867 there have been X Governors of the US state of Alaska..."?
      • I've debolded some and moved things around.
    • Move [A] to other side of the comma.
      • Done.
    • "13 and a half" I imagine this ought to be hyphenated?
      • Using 1/2 instead.
    • I think we've debated this sort of thing before but I'd really like to see a reference for the opening para of the List of Governors section.
      • Not yet fixed, need to find suitable refs.
        • Done for Alaska Day; does the rest need a ref since it's basically a 'see also'? --Golbez (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Image captions, I'd prefer to see "first" instead of 1st etc.
      • I would too, but then I ran in to "38th" and figured I should match them all. I'll move the lower ones back except for 11th and 38th. --Golbez (talk) 05:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • The commander col would look better left-aligned.
      • Would that apply to the governor name columns as well?
        • I would prefer that.... The Rambling Man (talk) 17:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • That would need a bit more work than I'm able to give at the moment, and the previous ones are all center-aligned.. can this one slide? :) --Golbez (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unlink the dates. We're pushing now to only link the significant dates (e.g. 4 July, 1776) and not those which are comparatively trivial.
      • I've just been waiting for someone to say it. ;)
    • There's a key for the Governors of Alaska table but not the others. Is this what is worrying you? I'd remove the colors if you're not sure.
      • I'll respond to this later.
        • The issue is, the appointed governors are not necessarily partisan, since they were not nominated by a party. So the party color used is that of the president who appointed them. Should this be removed, and just have no coloring, since it's technically not partisan (IMO)? --Golbez (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 18:33, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Current ref H (Ruskin, Liz) is lacking a last access date.
Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done; while i'm at it, that's a web copy (not official archive) of a print news story; should I use cite web or cite news? --Golbez (talk) 08:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't checked the link, but I suspect if it's not an official archive and just what someone's copy/pasted onto another website, WP:COPYVIO may be in effect. If it is a news article that appeared in a newspaper or magazine you don't need to provide an URL because it can be read in that newspaper. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It does say "courtesy of" the paper at the top, but it might be wise to cite it as a newspaper article and drop the link. Thus solving both issues at once. Also check if the paper itself holds archives online? Ealdgyth - Talk 21:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • There's no need to use Egan's full name the second time in the lead. His surname will suffice
    • Done.
  • I'd prefer Capt., Maj, Lt, and the like to be spelled in full the first time each is used
    • Done, though I don't think I like how it looks.
  • In the "Governors of Alaska Territory" section, the sentence "Governors continued to be appointed by the president." should say US president. If someone visits this section via a link from another page, as in [[List of Governors of Alaska#Governors of Alaska Territory]], they may not know which president
    • Fair enough, done.
  • "Alaska was admitted to the union" What union? Expand and/or Wikilink, please
    • Linked.
  • You need to use the magic word
  • You have a key for the colours in the "Governors of Alaska" section, but not in any of the others, either use it in them all, or not at all, because of the key within the lead section
    • True, dealing with this question above.
  • WP:BUNCH
    • Done, thanks for the link, didn't know about that.
  • I'm confused about referencing. Letters being used for inline cites, and numbers for footnotes? Seems very odd.
    • Bug the devs to let me nest <ref>s and I will happily combine them. As it is, this is the only way to separate footnotes from citations, which IMO should not be combined.
      • I agree with that, but if you use {{note label}} and {{ref label}} for footnotes you can use </ref> to reference them. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • But that is merely the opposite of the current system, in use on all these articles except, IIRC, the Lt. Gov of WI list, since it would run out of letters for citations. --Golbez (talk) 00:20, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The pink shading for Alaskan Independence is very wishy-washy against the white. Could it be made a little darker or changed?

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1 More Please use {{frac}} for the 13 1/2 thing. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 15:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

  • Footnote 13, "Governor Palin's term expires December 6, 2010; she is not yet term limited" -- does this need updating? I'm presuming she won't stay Governor now she is McCain's running mate Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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