Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of DS:Style products/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 10:01, 9 December 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of DS:Style products edit

Featured list candidates/List of DS:Style products/archive1

Nominator(s): Pres N 22:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm finally nearing the end of getting all of WP:SE's lists to featured status- though of course, that means we're down to the even-more-obscure ones. Here we have what should be the bottom of that- the DS:Style line of educational software products for the Nintendo DS, which started out in 2007 with fascinating topics like gardening and yoga, and ended after 22 releases in 2011 with study guides for the Japanese real estate exam. Riveting stuff. The main point of notability for these Japan-only products is that they represented an attempt by Square Enix, a massive video game developer/publisher, to expand their product lines to include the non-traditional-gaming public. Turns out there's only so much you can do with that when producing software for a video game console. Anyways, thanks for reviewing! --Pres N 22:47, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support ~~Comments~~ These lists really are getting to obscurity aren't they? Good luck on the last two Dragon Quest lists. Not sure what your position is on red links, but I'd consider linking LEC certification test, Japan Legal Mind, and even Tipness. They may not get articles any time soon, but a red link isn't necessary a bad link. Due to there being no parent article, a third paragraph in the lead with a bit of overviewing reception of the series from the reference links might give the article a bit of a boost. Also, just a heads up that all the Gamespot links are broken I believe. This is (as you noted) a very obscure list, especially as it doesn't have any English release and it's content is pretty much only concerning the originating language, good luck on the nomination. --Lightlowemon (talk) 11:37, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the broken links and added some redlinks. --Pres N 18:32, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes they are, mind if I ask for your feedback about a potential third paragraph? --Lightlowemon (talk) 11:03, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Added one, but there weren't really reviews for them- they're really just software products, and as such after the first blip were largely ignored- they're the kind of thing you pick up in passing in the store, not the kind of thing you read big reviews of on websites, regardless of country. --Pres N 04:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I figured, but pretty much what you put up was what I was looking for, just a couple of sentences given that this list has no main article. I see nothing else wrong with this now. --Lightlowemon (talk) 00:51, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Everything seems to be in order. Well-references, well-written, and seemingly complete. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 19:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...}:

Make sure tables comply with MOS:DTT and utilize column and row scopes. If you're not a proponent of the bold row headers, you can use "wikitable plainrowheaders", but I'd suggest using row and column scopes anyway.
I'm very worried about the use of GameSpot as a reference for the items in the tables. Per WP:VG/S, GameSpot's database is NOT considered a reliable source. It is shared with GameFAQs, which is entirely user-contributed without editorial oversight, and GameSpot mirrors it in a rather deceptive fashion. Can you find another source for the games?

Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 03:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

...I can't believe I forgot about that. Ugh. Of course you were going to call me out on that; you did on my last video game FLC as well. We're in luck; IGN covered most of the games, and the Square Enix sites for the others had the release dates (which they don't always). No Gamespot refs remaining, col/row scopes added. --Pres N 04:02, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support, with one more comment. Well done. I promise, I'm not trying to pick on you for that; GameSpot just happens to be rather deceptive because it doesn't look like it's a user-contributed database, yet it is. About the most that GameSpot can be used for are for staff-contributed opinions and statements, as long as they're verified staff members of GameSpot. Now, I'm already willing to support this list, but given the red links in the lead, can anything be said about some of the items linked to help understand the subject? For example, I'd understand the sentence about a study guide for LEC certification tests if we had such an article, but we do not, so can something be said about what an LEC certification test is for right after that? I didn't withhold my support because it's of little relevance to the subject itself, but it would help readers to understand what they're reading and what we're talking about when we don't have an article for something. Thanks, Red Phoenix ^{build the future...}_{remember the past...} 13:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out LEC is actually a strange acronym for Legal Mind, K.K. (i.e. Inc.). Probably makes more sense in Japanese. Changed the text from the Japanese LEC certification tests to "Japanese professional licensing and civil servant exams". --Pres N 18:49, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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