Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of DART Light Rail stations/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 04:46, 21 January 2010 [1].

List of DART Light Rail stations

Nominator(s): Patriarca12 (talk) 04:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/List of DART Light Rail stations/archive1

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that it meets the FLC criteria as it is based on the templates set forth in previous FLC on similar topics (List of St. Louis MetroLink stations, List of Bay Area Rapid Transit stations and List of Vancouver SkyTrain stations). Patriarca12 (talk) 04:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ≈ Chamal (sock) ^{Master · talk} 06:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments

Images need alt text
- Alt text added to all images.
~~In the refs, keep the date format consistent in both published date and retrieved date.~~
- Corrected.
~~The image description page for the map says a part of it is incorrect. Can you check and fix if this is true? It'd be best if you could add a reference there to an official map.~~
- I revised the map to correct the duplicate station indicated in the description page and amended the Green Line Stations that are now open.

≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 05:30, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Thanks for taking a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 23:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alt text is pretty much the same as the image caption now. It should describe the image, since it's there for someone who can't see the image. For example, the alt text for File:White Rock Station .jpg could be something like "Two people are standing next to a small tree and a waste container, on a platform beside a partially visible white and yellow train". ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 06:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry about that as I have not done alt texts before. I think I got it right this time around. Thanks! Patriarca12 (talk) 21:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support ≈ Chamal (sock) ^{Master · talk} 06:53, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

;Comments

If you're going to force image sizes for maps, put them at minimum 300px.
- Resized.
Several of the sentences are rather long; in particular the first, the last in the second paragraph and the last in the third paragraph.
- I reworded several to cut down the length of several sentences.
Instead of wikilinking 'U.S. state of...', just write 'Texas, United States', with 'United States' unlinked.
- Done.
In the lead, I would like to see more about the stations—perhaps by expanding the total length. Information that could be included are if there are any 'hubs' or similar in the system, the busiest stations ect. Another aspect that could be discussed is the amenities, facilities and architecture of the stations. Are they mere tram stops, or full stations? Is there a common design, or are they vastly different? Also, the information in the third paragraph is much more vital to the scope of this article, and should be moved further to the top, perhaps even as the second sentence.
- Relocated suggested paragraph and added additional paragraph providing for additional information on station design.
Pearl is overlinked.
- Delinked.
It is not obvious that 'Dallas Love Field' is an airport.
- Clarified.
In the key, 'transfer' should not be capitalized, similarly 'completion' in the second table.
- Done.
Although it is possible to say 'terminal station', the phrase 'terminal' by itself can have another meaning. It would be better to use the terms 'termini' (plural of 'terminus') or 'terminal stations'.
- Done.
References should be center-aligned in the tables.
- Done.
'St. Paul' and 'Spring Valley' are in the wrong order.
- Corrected.
'Orange Line' is overlinked in the body of 'stations under construction'.
- Delinked.
There seems to be a statement in the body of 'stations under construction' that lack sources.
- Additional sources added.
Use 'and' instead of a slash in 'deferred/ghost'.
- Done.
Image licenses and external links turn out all right. Could you move the three appropriate images to the Commons, please.
- I am not familiar enough with how to do this. I will work on it...
  - Use this tool to easily move the images. Get a TUSC account (click the link on that page to learn more) and it is a one-step transaction. Couldn't be easier (once you've figured out how to do it).
    - Thanks for the tip. I have moved the appropriate images. Patriarca12 (talk) 20:17, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 13 should use the {{"'}} template, but since this is being created by a cite template, there isn't much that can be done about that.

Arsenikk ^(talk) 18:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

- Again, thank you for your comments and taking the time to take a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 23:54, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - To easy loading time on WP:FLC, please avoid use of 'done' images and similar. I have taken the liberty of removing them. Arsenikk ^(talk) 19:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Arsenikk ^(talk) 22:01, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Before launching into "Both the..." perhaps state how many lines there are to start with.
Can we be more imaginative than to start two consecutive sentences with "As of 2009.."?
"mileage of the network to 90 miles" again, why repeat mile? Perhaps, increase the overall length of the network to x miles?
I'd avoid using abbreviations in a lead image as it's one of the first things our readers will see (i.e. TRE).
"protection from the elements" I may being over-sensitive but this is a little colloquial for me, perhaps "from adverse weather conditions" or similar?
Perhaps the pickiest I've ever been but " MLK, Jr." on my screen is linked, but carries over two lines so looks like two links. I'd use a non-breaking space between the comma and the Jr...
For non-US readers, it may be useful to expand DFW.

The Rambling Man (talk) 00:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- All have now been addressed except for the one regarding the MLK Station. I am not sure as to what you mean by a "non-breaking space." Please advise as to how to proceed, and thank you for your comments! Patriarca12 (talk) 15:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - It's probably easiest if you check out WP:NBSP - basically I'd prefer for the MLK, Jr. to not be split across lines and a non-breaking space should allow it... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Got it! Thanks for the link as I was not sure how to do that. Thanks again for your comments. Patriarca12 (talk) 17:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Excellent, works for me. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:48, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Is it possible to avoid placing footnotes in the middle of sentences?
Additionally, all stations include works of public art as part of the DART Station Art & Design Program. - "Additionally" is redundant here.
2-column reflist?

Otherwise good. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:52, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- Comments addressed. Thanks for taking a look at this! Patriarca12 (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Support; thanks for quickly responding. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 22:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support The Rambling Man (talk) 17:15, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The map needs alternative text. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Alt text added to the map. Patriarca12 (talk) 02:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks, but what you added doesn't really describe the content of the map. It doesn't help the reader to describe the appearance of the symbols. See the two examples given in the link I provided. If you still have trouble, contact Eubulides (talk · contribs), the expert on alt text. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:56, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Some of the other alt texts need a bit of improvement. Don't use proper nouns that can't be verified by looking at the image (e.g. "DART" and names of stations). For example, in "the DART Light Rail Pearl Station island platform and canopy in the median of the street with only a few passengers present" just say "A light rail station island platform..." Dabomb87 (talk) 02:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - I think I got it this time. Proper nouns removed except for Las Colinas from all alt texts and map text formatted like one of the ones shown in the suggested link. Thanks for the help! Patriarca12 (talk) 03:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
~~Also, what makes http://www.angelahunt.com/2005/02/15/dallas-area-rapid-transit-meeting/ reliable?~~ Dabomb87 (talk) 23:16, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Replaced the council woman's website with a citation from the Dallas Morning News. Patriarca12 (talk) 02:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Pretty solid work, I can't find anything in it which is an issue. Afro (Not a Terrible Joke) ^{- Afkatk} 10:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I'm afraid the lead map File:Dfwrailmap2.1.png is useless at the resolution in this article, and it won't help to increase the size (unless it's made wayy to large). The map's alt text "Diagram illustrating transit lines and stations as described in the text" is useless as well. If the map is summarizing an important part of the article that is not immediately adjacent to the map, then the map's alt text should provide a similar summary. But anyway, I suggest that the map be replaced by a route diagram; that'd be much easier to read. Eubulides (talk) 02:05, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I removed the map altogether as maps have not been included in all of the FL's of rail stations (BART stations & Caltrain stations as examples of this). Patriarca12 (talk) 03:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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