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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:Matthewedwards 15:56, 25 October 2008 [1].

List of Connecticut tornadoes edit

previous FLC (23:06, 26 May 2008)

Believe all the old concerns have been addressed. -RunningOnBrains 03:56, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:37, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Done I think, except for one. The disaster center website just uses the Storm Prediction Center archives and puts them in table form. I could cite a different website, but this is the only one that actually does the math so I think it's better to have a straightforward source. Regardless, I'll see if I can find a better one. Tornadoproject.com is the website for The Tornado Project, started by Dr. Thomas P. Grazulis (also the author of one of the book refs), pretty much the authority on historical tornadoes, so I believe it would be considered reliable.-RunningOnBrains 00:44, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The National Weather Service cites Grazulis regularly, so I would consider his website reliable. Here is one such case, others are easily found if you need them [2]. WxGopher (talk) 03:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]
Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "This is a list of tornadoes reported in the history of the US state of Connecticut." Featured Lists don't start like this anymore.
    • I don't get your meaning. How do they start? -RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • All lists used to start with "This is a list of...". Now, it's encouraged to think of a new and interesting lead sentence. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 22:15, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "While Connecticut is not known for tornado events..." "While"-->Although.
    •  Done
  • "They occur most commonly in Hartford County, although since 1950 Litchfield County has recorded the most tornadoes. Several areas have been struck more than once, and Waterbury has been struck by no less than 4 tornadoes since 1955." Inline citations for these sentences needed.
    • I don't think basic math needs to be cited. If each tornado has a citation, including where it occurred, I don't see how these statements need inline citation.-RunningOnBrains 21:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "While Connecticut tornadoes are typically weak, isolated events can be violent." Again, use Although instead of "While".
    •  Done
  • "The year 1973 was particularly active: eight tornadoes occurred on six separate days." Use a semicolon instead of a colon.
    •  Done
  • Images which have captions that are not complete sentences should not have periods.
    •  Done
  • "A 300 yard (274 m) wide tornado unroofed several homes in northern Bridgeport." Hyphenate "300-yard".
    •  Done
  • "levelled"-->leveled, only one "l" in American English.
    •  Done
  • "One boy was killed and 33 others were injured." Since these are comparitive quantities, spell out both numerals.

More comments later. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:18, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Pre–1850" Should be a hyphen, not an en dash. Also, I don't have time to make more comments today, I'll try to tomorrow, and if not tomorrow, then Saturday. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "A Connecticut tornado is a tornado which has affected the US state of Connecticut." This is definitely not necessary. There is no requirement to have something in bold at the beginning, just a engaging lead. The second sentence is good enough for me.
  • Actually, would "Before 1850" be acceptable for the heading that you just changed?
  • "September 18, 1918: A tornado cut a path 130-160 feet across from Groton, Connecticut, through Mystic, and out into Long Island Sound. Small buildings, roofs, trees and telephone poles were damaged heavily. Several people received minor injuries from flying debris" Dash use, needs period at the end.
  • "a path 50 to 300 feet (15 to 91 m)wide." Space after close parenthesis.
  • "1000 acres (4 km²)" Don't use the "2" subscript symbol, use the convert template or use subscript markup.
  • "two acres (8,000 m²)" Same thing here.
  • "An F4, it destroyed almost 400 structures, and injured 40 people."-->The F4 destroyed almost 400 structures and injured 40 people.
  • "Miraculously, no one was killed by these devastating tornadoes, though a girl was killed when straight-line winds blew a tree onto her tent." "Miraculously" is POV.
    • Is "amazingly" ok? -RunningOnBrains 17:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Sorry, I don't think you can use synonyms to fix this; better to just get to the point. Readers can figure out themselves that it was "miraculous" or "amazing" that nobody died. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Inconsistent ues of adverb and verb order: I see "briefly touched down" and "touched down briefly".
    • I actually thought about this and was wondering: is it better to use consistent (read: repetitive) wording for all these minor events, or should I be demonstrating "brilliant prose" (not to say that being consistent can't be brilliant, just wondering whether consistency or originality is more important)? -RunningOnBrains 17:17, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Consistency is definitely more important here, especially since a lot of the bullet points containing that phrase are consecutive. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This was the sixth most damaging tornado in US history." Hyphenate "sixth most".
  • "11 mile (18 km) path" Hyphen in "11 mile" needed.
  • "One person was killed, with another 50 injured"-->One person was killed, with another fifty injured...
  • "August 28, 1911: A tornado cut a three mile (five km) path" Hyphenate "three mile".
  • "cutting a five mile (eight km) path through Hamden." Hyphen needed in "five mile". Dabomb87 (talk) 16:02, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Twenty homes, 63 barns, and 1,000 acres (4.0 km2) of forest were destroyed." It's the comparative quantities thing again. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:43, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 3 http://www.disastercenter.com/conn/tornado.html needs a publisher. Also, what makes this site reliable? Dabomb87 (talk) 02:16, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Done I substituted in a book source. It's not as up-to-date, but it is a solid reference. -RunningOnBrains 17:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Every time I have looked at this article in order to review it, I got stuck on the paradoxical statement "They occur most commonly in Hartford County, although since 1950 Litchfield County has recorded the most tornadoes." I have not found a source for the statement that they occur most commonly in Hartford County, so I infer that this statement is simply a description of the data in the table. In that case, I believe that it would be more accurate (and less paradoxical) to say "More tornadoes have been reported in Hartford County than in any other county in the state, but since 1950 Litchfield County has recorded the most tornadoes." This would reflect what I believe is the reality: we don't actually have enough data to say where in the state tornadoes occur "most commonly" (and one might quibble with the word "commonly" there, since they are uncommon), but we do know where they have been reported. --Orlady (talk) 04:58, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that. --Orlady (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Nice list, well-presented and thoroughly sourced. I have just one more comment, though. The storm of August 7, 1839 is described as passing through "an uninhabited area of present-day Wallingford." I don't think the boundaries of Wallingford have changed since 1839, so I believe that should simply refer to "an uninhabited area of Wallingford." --Orlady (talk) 18:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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