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List of Arsenal W.F.C. seasons edit

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Nominator(s): Idiosincrático (talk) 06:15, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Arsenal Women, formally Arsenal Ladies, is the women's team of Premier League giants Arsenal F.C. This is a list of their seasons since the club's formation in 1987; the club are the most successful domestic women's side in England.

It's worth noting that there is literally no wholesale coverage of women's football statistics from the 20th century as virtually every team was an amateur side; and those sides which were semi-professional or were affiliated with men's sides didn't last long. There are no books or dedicated databases focusing on Arsenal's history; unlike the men's side, which has 100s. The RSSSF has only recently updated its pages on women's football which allowed this list to flourish, and the stats that were missing from RSSSF could be filled with other sources such as Arsenal's offical match day programme from the 90s. I look forward to your comments :) Idiosincrático (talk) 06:15, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "Arsenal Women Football Club is an English professional association football club based in Holloway, North London, it is the women's...." - this should be broken into two sentences
  • "which was founded in 1886." - source?
  • "Originally formed as Arsenal Ladies in 1987, the club became semi-professional in 2002 and later adopted its present name in 2017." - source?
  • "Arsenal are the only English side to win Europe's women's football competition, the UEFA Women's Champions League" - source?
  • "Arsenal are also the most successful team in the now-defunct Women's FA Community Shield." - source?
  • Why are the seasons which were played within one calendar year referred to as 20XX-YY? Surely if every game was played in say, 2016, then that's the 2016 season not the 2015-16 season.....?
I did this under the assumption that Arsenal played in the FA Cup in both years, after a quick look turns out not to be the case. I submitted an RMassist to move the incorrectly titled season. Idiosincrático (talk) 13:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • These lists normally include the top goalscorer for each season. Appreciate this won't be available for early seasons, but any chance it could be included where known?
We had a short discussion on the talk page about including the known top scorers, but there isn't any sources available yet which list these players. @Cpg12: guessed that we could probably collate top scorers until the year 2000, but it would involve shoehorning an impractical amount of citations. Instead we opted to wait for a solid reference to emerge such as a book or data base in the near future. Idiosincrático (talk) 13:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Does not include results of amalgamated club Aylesbury, formally Aylesbury Harlequins and Islington" - what does this mean? This is literally the only mention of an "amalgamated club" and it isn't clear how it relates to Arsenal WFC.......
  • " The Women's FA Community Shield was formed" - I think maybe "created" would be a better word than "formed"
  • "2009, where it was renamed" => "2009, when it was renamed"
  • "Despite qualifying, the 2007 Women's FA Community Shield was not played" - this doesn't make sense - the Community Shield did not qualify for anything
  • "Between 2011 and 2017, the WSL played each league season annually," => "Between 2011 and 2017, the WSL played each league season within the calendar year"
  • "and ending May 2018" => "and ending in May 2018"
  • "The 2019–20 WSL season was regularly postponed" - what does "regularly postponed" mean? They postponed it every week?
  • Also, that note should be broken up into multiple sentences
  • That's what I got. Great to see some women's football content at FLC!! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:28, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Thank you so much for your review. I'd like to think I've addressed everything, but let me know if I've missed anthing. Idiosincrático (talk) 13:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apologies, I missed a couple of things in the lead which could also do with sourcing:
    • "Arsenal are the most successful women' s team in England" (also, remove that space between the apostrophe and the s)
    • "a record six times" and "a record ten times" (i.e. need a source that these are records) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Done; I cited the League Cup one with RSSSF, they haven't updated it for Arsenal's record extending 2023 win, but they still held the record nonetheless, I'm sure they'll update it soon enough. Thanks again for your review. Idiosincrático (talk) 12:33, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MPGuy2824
  • Add wikilinks for the various leagues mentioned in the lead.
  • What does "regional football" mean? A wikilink might help.
  • "and later adopted its present name in 2017." - the word "later" is redundant. Ditto with "and later joined the Women's Super League in 2011".
  • As someone not into football, I don't know what relegated and top-flight mean.
  • The article starts with "Arsenal WFC is", but later there are mentions of "Arsenal are". I'm unsure of which is right (leaning towards the singular), but it should be consistent across the article.
  • "and the FA Women's National League Cup (formally FA Women's Premier League Cup) a record ten times whilst the competition was England's main league cup." Had to read that a couple of times to get it. See if "and the FA Women's National League Cup (while it was England's main league cup)." works better.
  • Looking at the similar list for Chelsea, I think putting the multiple-row spanning "League" in the top row of the table header works better.
  • Footnotes E, F and H are missing full-stops at the end even though they seem to be full sentences. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:17, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824: All addressed, thank you so much for your review. Idiosincrático (talk) 00:11, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support on prose and table accessibility. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:29, 2 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 20:39, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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