Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of 2006 Major League Baseball all-stars/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 06:54, 2 July 2008 [1].
This seems o meet all FL criteria. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 21:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think there needs to be some sort of divide between the National and American league tables. You could turn it into two seperate tables, or add some sort of thick line/narrow blank column between columns 2 and 3. Drewcifer (talk) 21:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I do have most of the positions in the lead. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I actually haven't read the lead yet. Busted! =) But technically speaking the lead should summarize the rest of the article/list, but not introduce anything new. So that info should be in the table in some way, right? Drewcifer (talk) 00:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay. Done. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 02:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How are the rows organized? For instance, why is Alfonso Soriano on the same row as B.J. Ryan? The fact that everything is in one table necessitates a bit more structure. Table-wise, I'm honestly more akin to the style of 2006 Major League Baseball All-Star Game. Which leads me to a related question: why do we need this list anyways? It's already done in the other article, and in my opinion better. Drewcifer (talk) 02:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I do have most of the positions in the lead. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Due to my comments above and (so far) a lack of resolution to them. To recap, I have three over-arching issues:
- This list is made redundant by 2006 Major League Baseball All-Star Game. This list contributes nothing the article does not, and is in fact inferior (IMHO) to the list contained in the larger article which is formatted more carefully and logically, aesthetically more pleasing and readable, and contains more information. The only thing this list does that the article does not is add a bunch of pictures on the side, which isn't particularly compelling to me.
- The formatting and structure of the tables is arbitrary and seemingly haphazard. This is mainly due to the fact the both leagues occupy the same horizontal space in the same table.
- Lastly (and this is a new one), the sorting does not work at all. I believe this is due to the common row at the bottom with the source, but I'm not too sure about that. Drewcifer (talk)
- Comment
Can the table in Key be fixed so the color fills the entire cell?Gary King (talk) 23:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Ya - done. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The main article for this list still has a table. Why can't the one here be moved there? Then, that article would be a lot more useful. -- Scorpion0422 06:04, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, for now. I usually don't oppose right off the bat (no pun intended), but I see a lot of issues and incorrect grammar.- The contest was the fifth hosted by the city of Pittsburgh -- tying the Indians for the record of most times hosted by a single franchise. Oh noes! Not the double hyphen!
- Oh no! Replaced. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The game resulted in the American League defeating the National League 3-2, thus awarding the AL champion (which was eventually the Detroit Tigers) home-field advantage in the 2006 World Series. Change "3-2" to "3–2".
- Done. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ivan Rodriguez made his eleventh all-star appearance, while Alex Rodriguez made his ninth. Why is Alex in italics?
- I have no clue (removed) « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the American League, Catcher Ivan Rodriguez making his 13th all-star appearance, received 1,826,720 votes, the most for the catcher position. Something funky there.
- Reworded. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- New York Yankees players Alex Rodriguez Derek Jeter, both making multiple all-star appearances, received over two million votes to play third base or shortstop, respectively. "Alex Rodriguez Derek Jeter" is not one person. Also, that sentence is very pooly worded.
- Reworded. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Albert Pujols, received 3,418,555, the most that year for any position.. Why the commans?
- Fixed. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Chase Utley, making his first world series appearance, received 1,971,920 votes. I thought we were talking about the All-stars game, not the world series.
- Yep, just as I thought - I've lost my mind. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The key confuses me. It says the color green and a bullet point indicates that a player ppeared more than once in an all-star game, but some of the entries in the table are only colored green and don't have a bullet point. Do they signify different things?
- Not any more I hope. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd like to see more references. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 23:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a little blunt Julian. The question is: where? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Er, I guess that was a bit blunt. For example, what source does the entire table rely on? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This - okay - I'll add a source at the bottom of the table. That fine? Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yea, that should be fine. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yep done. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yea, that should be fine. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This - okay - I'll add a source at the bottom of the table. That fine? Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 01:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Er, I guess that was a bit blunt. For example, what source does the entire table rely on? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 01:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a little blunt Julian. The question is: where? « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:52, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- More comments Starting to look better. I struck my oppose, so just a few more comments.
- The game resulted in the American League defeating the National League 3$ndash;2, thus awarding the AL champion (which was eventually the Detroit Tigers) home-field advantage in the 2006 World Series. Funky non-breaking space.
- Added. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Albert Pujols, received 3,418,555 votes, the most that year for any position[3], to play first base in the world series.[3] Because you're using the same ref, kill the one in the middle of the sentence.
- Killed... « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Albert Pujols, received 3,418,555 votes, the most that year for any position... Still too many commas.
- Reworded. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- In the outfield, Vladimir Guerrero topped the list with 2,833,601 votes. Maybe becaues I'm going crazy, this says to me that he topped the entire All-star list.
- By spelling because wrong, it seems you are :P - Reworded. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Jason Bay was voted to play outfield 2,635,930 times, the most in that position that year. Gah! Jason Bay played outfield 2,635,930 times?! :P
- Uh... not really. It says: "Jason Bay was voted to play outfield 2,635,930..." - I don't see anything wrong. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, OK, but I still think it's slightly confusing. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Reworded. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, OK, but I still think it's slightly confusing. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Uh... not really. It says: "Jason Bay was voted to play outfield 2,635,930..." - I don't see anything wrong. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Image layout looks fine on Firefox, but poor on Internet Explorer. I can't imagine there's a way to fix that, so it's no big deal.
- Ya, asked too many people how to fix that. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed it. :) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks - « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I fixed it. :) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ya, asked too many people how to fix that. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As the entire chart isn't a key, it might be best to eliminate the "key" subheader or move it to the bottom.
- I did something else - check it out. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 13:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Another comment Why is {{2007 MLB season by team}} at the bottom? Shouldn't it be 2006? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:33, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ya, I've definitely lost my mind. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 20:42, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Also, what is the organization for the table? It appears to be done alphabetically, but in that order, wouldn't Barry come before B.J. in the NL column? Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No - the B.J. - Symbols are before words when it comes to alphabetical order. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 21:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Dang, I forgot about that. That was stupid... I'll give the list a a last full look-over tonight. Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:08, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Heh, that's OK. I assume you copy and pasted from the 2007 list and forgot to change it?;) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No - the B.J. - Symbols are before words when it comes to alphabetical order. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 21:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
CommentOppose If we're listing the all-stars separately, then what should we have at 2006 Major League Baseball All-Star Game?--Crzycheetah 07:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]- As I've already said, I don't think this page is necessary. 2006 Major League Baseball All-Star Game should have these tables.--Crzycheetah 17:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: The source at the bottom of the table should be in a "references" section, like Wikipedia instead of the seemingly misplaced [5] as it is now. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 18:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Remove the overlinking of Teams from Team columns, link the teams the first time they appear in the table. --Gman124 talk 00:02, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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