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Laureus World Sports Award for Sportsperson of the Year with a Disability edit

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Nominator(s): Harrias talk, The Rambling Man (talk) 10:12, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Based off the similar Laureus World Sports Award for Sportswoman of the Year, which is well on its way to becoming a FL, this list honours those disabled athletes who have excelled. I have an open FLC, Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Ruth Lyttle Satter Prize in Mathematics/archive1, but that has three supports and no outstanding comments. Harrias talk 10:12, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from BeatlesLedTV (talk) 16:10, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from BeatlesLedTV
  • There's 2 refs for every year; retitle ref column "Refs" as having (s) is unneeded.
  • I think the ref and year columns should be centered but if you don't want to that's totally fine. I know there's a lot of featured lists without the year and ref columns centered.
  • Can you find a ref or two for the last sentence in the lead?
    • This simply refers to the information provided in the list, so there is no need for a reference, per WP:LEAD. Harrias talk 14:46, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Other than that looks good. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 02:45, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Harrias talk 14:46, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – I got no other comments or concerns. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 16:10, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Ianblair23 (talk) 02:18, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
:Hi Harrias and TRM, please find my comments below:
  • Lead
  • The Brazilian swimmer link Paralympic swimming
  • closely followed by athletics link Paralympic athletics
  • disabled athletes from the world of Paralympic sports change to Disabled sports as those athletes who compete in sports not contested at the Paralympic Games are also eligible.
I don't disagree with your statement, but the supporting reference clearly states: "in a sport in the Paralympic programme". Harrias talk 11:37, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Table
  • References
@Ianblair23: All done, except as noted above. Harrias talk 11:37, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Great job Harrias and TRM. Look forward to seeing the rest of the series come to FLC. Cheers – Ianblair23 (talk) 02:20, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from MWright96 (talk) 20:49, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
* Comments from MWright96 – Hello TRM and Harrias. Please have a look at the queries I have put to you below:
    • " collecting 284 titles including" - missing a comma between "titles" and "including"
      Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • The numbers 4 and 5 in the lede should be spelt out per MOS:NUMERAL
      Not quite, if they're comparable then you use all numbers or all words, not a mixture. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • "was Italian wheelchair fencer Beatrice Vio" - was the
      Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reference 17 is a dead link that requires archiving
      Replaced. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Also just to be absolutely safe, it's worth considering archiving all the remaining citations that don't currently have one to prevent link rot
      Sure, but you could say that about any list. Once someone comes up with a bulk archiving tool, that's cool, until then we'll need to do it on a case-by-case basis. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from the minor issues, the list is in pretty good shape. MWright96 (talk) 20:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

MWright96 thanks for your comments, I've addressed them all above. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:34, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no other issues I wish to bring up so I will give my unequivocal Support. Cheers. MWright96 (talk) 20:49, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments from JennyOz

Hi TRM and Harrias, here are my first comments/questions.

  • Infobox, Awarded for - formats differ ie Sportswoman, Sportsman, Team, Breakthrough, Comeback, Sport for Good, and Spirit, all have quotes and ref but Disability, Action, and Lifetime do not.
  • Prose, First sentence - "Paralympic sports" is piped to Disabled sports. Laureuas talks of "sport in the Paralympic programme" which I presume means a disabled athlete, competing in a sport which would not normally be an event type at summer or winter Paralympics, cannot be eligible to be nominated? If so, why do we pipe to Disabled sports which includes intellectual disabilities eg Special Olympics, Invictus Games and "unified sports" ie teams that include members with and without disabilities. Remove pipe and simply link to Paralympic sports?
  • "The Laureus World Sports Academy then select the winner" - selects?
  • "The first winner of the award was the Australian wheelchair racer, Louise Sauvage, who had won three medals, at the 2000 Sydney Paralympics" - not sure if the comma after "medals" is needed
  • "In 2002, Esther Vergeer, a wheelchair tennis..." insert Dutch?
  • Esther Vergeer - "... Vergeer won 470 matches in a row, collecting... " - her records were over career til she retired 2013 but this could read as if she'd achieved them before the 2002 award. Maybe insert "over her career" or "who went on to win" or "before retiring in 2013" or similar?
  • "... Daniel Dias has the most wins, collecting the prize three times,... " - add "with a further three nominations" or similar?
  • Dias "collecting the prize three times,..." - prize should be award?
  • "...while Michael Teuber has been nominated..." - add 'German' and 'racing cyclist'?
  • "...Michael Teuber has been nominated the most without winning, doing so on four occasions." - doing so should be 'being so'?
  • "The 2004 winner, Earle Connor..." - add Canadian sprinter?
  • Connor - ref 12 ("Earle Connor (Rescinded)") only says the award was rescinded (not also the nomination) this and this?
  • "Swimmers have been the most successful at the awards, with 5 wins and 20 nominations," - I'm only seeing 4 and 18
  • "... followed by athletics with 4 wins and 25 nominations." - I count 6 wins and 26 noms? (or if reduced for Connor, 5 and 25, and, if so, does prose sentence need a note?)

Am starting on tables now:) Regards, JennyOz (talk) 11:50, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JennyOz hi Jenny, thanks for that, all addressed I hope. Look forward to the table review. Don't mention the cricket. Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 12:09, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Part 2...

  • infobox - is missing Laureus website
    Added. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Table key - "... was later rescindeded" - typo
    Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Main table - all winners, wlinks, flags, nationality, sport, sorting - all checked
    Cool, thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • 2014 Marie Bochet - photo says it's of Petra Kozickova of Slovakia but maybe mislabelled?
    Yes, a Google image search substantiates it's not Petra (who looks like this) and is indeed Marie. I'll confirm with the uploader and suggest the file details are changed. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Winners' sports
2002 Sauvage, 2005 Petitclerc, 2006 van Dyk - pipe their Athletics to Wheelchair racing?
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nominations - possible pipes (is this correct to do in prep for future articles? If not, please ignore.)
Schwarzenbach, Teuber x 4, Otxoa , Kenny x 2, Storey x 2, Zanardi, Gautier, du Preez - pipe Cycling to Paralympic cycling?
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Petitclerc, Blauwet, Tähti, Fearnley x 2, Hunkeler, Weir x2, Hug x 2, McFadden - pipe to Athletics to Wheelchair racing?
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Girişmen - Paralympic archery
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alan Fontelles /Fonteles / is listed on Laureus as Alan Oliveira. There was a RM consensus on talk page 2013 that it should be at Oliviera but was moved back Dec 2016. Should this Laureus page at least use Alan Oliveira which is what the ref uses?
    Yes, we'll use the Laureus ref as source here. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(Not sure why Laureus has Petushkov as Nordic skiing. In Sochi 2014 he won 3 gold in each of cross country and biathlon. Not our problem though.)

(Indeed... The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC))[reply]
  • Refs - all years' winners and nominations verified with working refs
ref 19 Andrew Baker telegraph piece date is 23 may
ref 43 teamusa, byline says International Paralympic Committee
Both done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Statistics
Key - swap "Indicates total(s) exclude those of individuals whose award(s) and/or nomination(s) were later rescinded" for the simpler "Indicates totals which exclude rescissions" per Comeback?
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Statistics tables
Winners by nationality - OK
Nominations by nationality
RSA 1 - should be 2
GER 8 - 7
SUI 3 - 4
NZL 1 - 2
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Winners by sport
Swimming 5/20 - should be 4/18
Alpine skiing 3/5 - 3/6
Cycling 0/11 - 0/13
Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Multiples - all OK
Sorting - all seems OK
Template - matches list

That's me done. Thanks both, JennyOz (talk) 10:24, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

JennyOz Hi again Jenny, thanks once again, I thik I've addressed all the issues. Do late me know if there's anyting else I've overlooked. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:49, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Fantastic. Happy to sign for support. JennyOz (talk) 11:27, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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