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The list was promoted by Giants2008 21:04, 23 November 2012 [1].

Latin Grammy Award for Best Singer-Songwriter Album edit

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Nominator(s): ΛΧΣ21™, Statυs (talk) 01:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Latin Grammy Award for Best Singer-Songwriter Album is an honor presented annually at the Latin Grammy Awards, a ceremony that recognizes excellence and creates a wider awareness of cultural diversity and contributions of Latin recording artists in the United States and internationally. After revamping the list, we consider it is up to standard and ready to receive its broze medal. — ΛΧΣ21™ 01:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 04:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • % should be wrote out fully as "percent"
  • Done. Zac  16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Avoid bold links per WP:CONTEXTLINK, as seen in the table. To do this, add plainrowheaders to the table's coding
  • "Ref" is missing a period dot at end
  • It isn't. Zac  16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The WP:OVERLINK has been removed, but the flags will remain. Again, these things were deemed acceptable in this type of list in a previous FLC. Zac  16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Added one. Zac  16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TBrandley 15:34, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 17:19, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • if they "contains 51 percent new unreleased material" they should be changed to it, "they contains" is poor grammar.
  • "...are the biggest recipients in this category" what do you mean by this? biggest names? most wins? its unclear. If it is biggest names to win the award, then that is POV and can't be included without a ref
  • Fixed the sentence, what it meant was that they recieved the most wins of the category. Zac (talk) 00:06, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The colour and apostrophe should be in the same cell
  • I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. Zac (talk) 00:06, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Avoid using a semi-colon for bolding, it's a WP:ACCESS concern. Either use headers or the three apostrophes

NapHit (talk) 19:38, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:20, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Presumably by "they contain 51 percent" you mean at least 51 percent?
  • "for her eponymous fourth studio album Soraya " if you say its eponymous, you probably don't need to repeat her name!
  • "Gian Marco Zignago and Caetano Veloso have received the most wins in this category, with two each, and they are the only performers to receive more than one accolade" the second part is obvious from the first and doesn't need to be re-stated.
  • I don't think you need to have [G1] for each entry when you list it as a general reference in any case.
  • I'll let Hahc deal with this, as he's the one who put them in that format. Zac (talk) 15:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay. I will delete the referencing and leave it as a general note below (as it is). — ΛΧΣ21™ 20:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would expect all awarded albums to be notabl enough to have an article.
  • So would I, but they don't. Zac (talk) 15:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • So I suspect the albums that won should all be linked, red-linked or otherwise. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are redlinks allowed at FLC? If so, I'll add the redlink. — ΛΧΣ21™ 20:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why, yes, of course!! If they're relevant and notable, then they should be linked! (I'm not the "tambling man" by the way!). The Rambling Man (talk) 20:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • OMG Sorry! My keyboard makes me write such things sometimes u.u I have added the links :) Anything else to be done? — ΛΧΣ21™ 20:42, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "José Luis Perales" has an accent on Jose.
  • Don't mix date formats in refs.
  • Category has "Category:Latin Grammy Award for Best Singer-Songwriter Album" which uses a capital S for songwriter. This article doesn't. Which is correct? Suggest things are made consistent.
  • The article title is correct; I don't have the ability to change category titles. Zac (talk) 15:51, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes you do, no special rights required to fix categories. Just create a new category with the correct title and change those articles in the wrong category to the right one. Finally, request the empty category to be deleted. Simple! The Rambling Man (talk) 18:31, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. I never thought of that, LOL! Was just saying how the category cannot be moved. Zac (talk) 19:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:15, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Um, it's been a month since an activity here. What's going on? Statυs (talk) 09:43, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you mean by what's going on, but I assume you are implying the nomination should be promoted. If the nomination has gone stale, then I would ask other users if they can review the list, so we can get a clearer consensus on whether it should be promoted. I would also ask Jaespinoza if his comments have been suitably addressed. No one is at fault if a nom goes stale it happens, but if they do go stale, then encouraging users to comment is usually the way to go. NapHit (talk) 14:56, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I guess he was expecting that very answer you gave to him... We need more reviewers so that consensus can be reached. — ΛΧΣ21™ 18:04, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"What's going on" as in "what's going on with this?". I never had the implication of it should be promoted, I was asking for an update. Statυs (talk) 18:45, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Erick (talk) 03:59, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
*Comment I think the articles for albums that won the award should be created as they are notable enough. Just a an article about the album with track listing, a mention of the award won, and maybe any charts that it ranked should be enough. Erick (talk) 18:11, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I may be doing this in the future :) But I guess I am not bound to if we want the list promoted, or do we need to? — ΛΧΣ21™ 18:16, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think it's required, but I think it helps. I'm just looking for something to nitpick since this FLC needs more reviewers. :P I'm still looking at the article. Erick (talk) 18:27, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh haha XD Well, thanks for the review Erick. I appreciate it a lot. — ΛΧΣ21™ 19:02, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Just a brief note, the Latin Grammy Awards are being held today, so you might want to get ready to update the 2012 section soon. Erick (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I have already updated the section. Regards. — ṞṈ™ 01:56, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    It needs a disambiguation. It currently links to a Luis Miguel album. Erick (talk) 03:13, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    I removed the link. I will handle the disambiguation later. Regards. — ṞṈ™ 03:25, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seems that I have no choice but to support the article. There aren't any problems that stand out to me. Erick (talk) 03:59, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Jaespinoza (talk) 07:59, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • First of all, I was the one who expanded this list to its current format, you only have to see the "history" section and my DYK credit por that matter, I do not know why I was not asked to nominate this list, since I did all the hard work in the first place.
  • I do not see the nominees for the 2012 Latin Grammy Awards, they should be included as I did on my current nomination for Latin Grammy Award for Best Short Form Music Video.
  • More comments to come. Jaespinoza (talk) 17:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually I had to completely rewrite the lead, verify and fix all the sources and make other changes to the overall list, so you can see on the history of the article that I am indeed a major contributor too, so I don't need to ask you to nominate this. On a side note, thank you for reminding me of the 2012 nominees, i will add them today. — ΛΧΣ21™ 17:31, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I noticed that the 2012 nominees were not arranged correctly, so I fixed that. I have one more comment: Why the name change from "Best Singer-Songwriter Album" to "Best Singer-songwriter Album"? In the Latin Grammy website appears as "Singer-Songwriter". Jaespinoza (talk) 19:20, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, thanks for that :) I appreciate all the help. About the name change, I'll let Zac explain that, as he was the one who performed it. Cheers! — ΛΧΣ21™ 19:23, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict) Why does it matter how it is displayed on their website? An example, an album booklets showing the word "the" in the title "In The End" in caps, but it's done "In the End" on Wikipedia as it's the correct form of titles. Singer-songwriter is one word, not two. It could also be written as Singersongwriter, and you wouldn't write it like SingerSongwriter. The caps are only done for each word; Singer-songwriter is a single word. Zac (talk · contribs) 19:28, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation. Jaespinoza (talk) 00:59, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Further comments:
I think the lead should be updated, since Ricardo Arjona is currently the biggest loser on this category with three unsuccessful nominations (5to Piso, Poquita Ropa and Independiente).
I'm not sure that adding this would give a good impression of the singer unless rerworded like this: "Guatemalan singer Ricardo Arjona has the highest number of nominations without a single win". Is that okay?
What I meant was that this sentence is no longer correct: "Djavan, Jorge Drexler, León Gieco, Ricardo Arjona and Silvio Rodríguez hold the record for the most nominations without a win, with two unsuccessful nominations each." since Arjona has three nominations without a win, I think that "Guatemalan singer Ricardo Arjona has the highest number of nominations without a single win, with three" or something like that could work. Jaespinoza (talk) 02:38, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Fixed. Thanks :) — ΛΧΣ21™ 03:13, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have a list currently nominated (for Best Short Form Music Video) and the reviewer asked me to redlink the winners (in case the article does not exist). In the past, when Another Believer started the Grammy WikiProject, we did the articles for all the winners, but it is a lot of work, so I think that redlinking the name of the article would suffice. Jaespinoza (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will redlink them. — ΛΧΣ21™ 01:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments. — ΛΧΣ21™ 01:43, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Jaespinoza (talk) 19:48, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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