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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 08:28:10 10 June 2019 (UTC) [1].

Kerala State Film Award for Best Director edit

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Nominator(s): Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the criteria. It is modeled on the existing FLs of the Kerala State Award. Thank you. Yashthepunisher (talk) 11:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from zmbro
  • Links look good
  • Add scope rows to the table (name col)
  • Is there an image available for the figurine awarded?
I'm afraid there are no free images available.
  • Why was there no winner in 2002?
I could not find any information beyond that on the internet or any book.
I actually had the same issue with the Golden Globe Cecil B. DeMille Award so all good there.
  • Should there be mention of the first female winner in the lead? As well as how many women have won in general?
  • There's a random extra table that's very small above the main table – remove this
  • Maybe add an extra table for multiple winners?
But that wouldn't go with the similar existing FLs in this category.

Looks good. Great job! – zmbro (talk) 19:31, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The rest has been addressed. zmbro Thank you for the comments. Yashthepunisher (talk) 08:51, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – All good for me. Great job to you! – zmbro (talk) 14:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support this nomination only when above issues are addressed. Mr. Smart LION 13:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Here, the reason for not giving the award in 2002.--Let There Be Sunshine 13:49, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Thanks much! Yashthepunisher (talk) 19:15, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments

"have won the award two times in their careers" => "have won the award twice in their careers"

  • "The Academy did not present the award in the 2002 ceremony" => "The Academy did not present the award at the 2002 ceremony"
  • "Shyamaprasad who was awarded for his film" => "Shyamaprasad, who received the award for his film"
  • The infobox says "Total awarded: 49" but this does not match the prose
  • I don't know if this is a Chrome-specific issue, but on my screen I can see a random small rectangle between the "winners" heading and the table caption - why's that there?
  • The table sorts on first name/initial - it should sort on surname

That's it from me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:02, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ChrisTheDude All done. Please have a look. Yashthepunisher (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Aoba47
  • I would add ALT text for the images.
  • Under the section title for the "Winners" section, there is an empty box/cell. It could just be something with my computer, but I am wondering if this is a formatting error of some kind?
  • I have a clarification question about this part (The awardees are decided by an independent jury formed by the academy.). You mention in the lead that the academy was started having influence in the awards after 1998. Was this jury used before 1998 or was a different method used to select winners?
The winners have always been decided by the jury even before the academy was setup.
  • That makes sense. Thank you for the clarification. Aoba47 (talk) 19:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not sure the "figurine" wikilink is necessary.
  • Is there a reason why an image of G. Aravindan is not used for the list as he is the person who won the award the most?
The only image of his available on common's has licensing issues.
  • Then I agree that it is best to not use it. Thank you for the clarification. Aoba47 (talk) 19:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are some instances where you use "the academy" (i.e. The awardees are decided by an independent jury formed by the academy.) and "the Academy" (i.e. The Academy did not present the award in the 2002 ceremony.). Make sure to be consistent with either format.

I hope this helps. Once my comments are addressed, I will read through the list again and most likely support it. Aoba47 (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Aoba47 The rest has been addressed. Thank you for your comments. Yashthepunisher (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for the responses. I support this for promotion. If you have the time or interest, I would greatly appreciate any comments for my current FAC. Either way, I hope you have a great end to your week, and I look forward to reading your future work. Aoba47 (talk) 19:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will actually be taking a wikibreak because I realized that my time will soon be taken up by off-Wikipedia activities so I will be withdrawing my FAC (though you are more than welcome to add commentary/suggestions whenever I come back with it lol). I still really enjoyed reading this list though and good luck with getting it promoted! Aoba47 (talk) 00:04, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "by the Department of Cultural Affairs, Government of Kerala" -> "by the Department of Cultural Affairs of the Government of Kerala"
  • "The awardees" yuck, why not "The recipients"?
  • " ₹2" link ₹.
  • Presumably (US$2,900) is equivalent {{as of}} 2019?
  • "49 Best Director awards" doesn't need capitalisation as the full formal name isn't being used.
  • "As of 2017, five directors" it's now 2019.
  • Image captions which are complete sentences need a full stop.
  • Why is Rukmini and Oru Njayarazhcha non-notable?
  • Film(s) and Recipient(s) yet in each case, only singular films and winners listed.

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:46, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man Linked Rukmini, but the latter film hasn't released yet. I am waiting for a release date to create its article. The rest has been resolved. Thanks for the comments. Yashthepunisher (talk) 19:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – The reliability of the references looks fine, and the link-checker tool shows no problems. There were a couple of small formatting issues that I feel compelled to bring up before this gets promoted:

  • Ref 4 (Cultural Heritage of Kerala) has an author listed on Google Books that isn't provided in the article (A. Sreedhara Menon, which you can see on the book cover), and no page number is given. The latter sometimes happens with Google Books excerpts (I can't access an excerpt for this book from the U.S.), but the author should definitely be listed, and the page number provided if Google Books gives you one. Also, since this is a book cite, an access date isn't required (refs 1 and 2 are similar and already don't have them).
  • The archived version of ref 4 isn't that helpful and could be removed. Google Books excerpts don't archive properly in the Internet Archive, and this is just the summary page anyway, not something that aids in verifying content. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:20, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Giants2008 Done. Thanks! Yashthepunisher (talk) 06:20, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
With those couple of points resolved, the source review has been passed. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:05, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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