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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 07:52, 1 July 2008 [1].

Kaiser Chiefs discography edit

This is the discography of British rock group Kaiser Chiefs. I am nominating this list because I believe it to be complete and well referenced. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 17:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 18:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments - a well put together list though, the chart positions have no references to reliable sources, also the release of the DVD, and the notes in the EP section cannot be verified as they too do not have references to reliable sources.--SRX--LatinoHeat 21:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 03:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Further Comments - Looks more verifiable, but the Video album needs a ref to a reliable source.--SRX--LatinoHeat 14:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any details/information about the DVD release can be found in the general references section. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 03:02, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved stuff from Tenacious D Fan
  • "one music DVD on B-Unique Records." Why are you in particular pointing out the label this was released on? Perhaps this should read video album instead.
  • "Eil.com" is not a reliable source.
  • "Contained b-sides, live recordings and an exclusive remix." Not a necessary piece of information.
  • "Contained a documentary, live performances and music videos." Weird tense, fragment sentence (no f stop required) - Perhaps this note isn't neccessary.
  • Instead of having the title "DVDs", have "Videos". This would make more sense, as why would any thing below the title "DVDs" not be in the DVD format, as you have noted.
  • You say "discography of the Kaiser Chiefs", but then you say "Kaiser Chiefs are currently recording..." Where is the "the". Consistency?

That's me. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 12:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've added all your comments into the article. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 13:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Music video directors need reliable sources.
Done. All the video directors are referenced using their official websites or their production company sites. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 16:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic work so far. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 15:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment
Expanded lead. Hopefully I got everything. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 16:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your dates have to be in the [[1 January]] [[2008]] format throughout
  • What about the Misc. section title width? For consistency name the Song column in misc and music video to Title.
  • I think remove applying a width to the Year columns as they have the same widths as the individual years. Remove align center too for the years too casuse they get kinda redundant. indopug (talk) 03:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Again, hopefully I fixed everything. All the title columns are the same width now. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 04:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm nervy about using the band's own site for sales information. Self-published sources are discouraged and there is clear personal interests involved.
I found another website that verifies the sales from their official website. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 02:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is Acharts.us reliable?
I believe it to be. I have checked their charts against charts published from other official websites and they all appear to be correct. Charts from the UK cannot be found online elsewhere (unless you use everyHit.com). -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 02:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • You might want to use Webcite on the band's official site etc. These often change without warning. indopug (talk) 10:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't think contactmusic is accepted as a reliable source. indopug (talk) 02:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to remove it then because I cannot find another "reliable" source to support the sales. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 15:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have found an article from The Times which contains the album's sales in the UK. I have used this to replace world sales because another reliable source cannot be found. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 15:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks very good! Drewcifer (talk) 02:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 05:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved stuff from Drewcifer

Comments Good work so far. A few suggestions:

  • I highly recommend redoing the citations using citation templates, since a few of them seem off format-wise. Though you did do a fairly good job of it by hand.
They look fine to me. It's the same format I have used in past discography FL's. I guess I could go over them all again. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 04:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's not need to repeat the chart sources in the general references, since you do that through in-line citations as well.
  • Consider bolding the album titles in the "Studio albums", "Video albums", and "EP" tables.
  • The "EP" seciton should be called "Extended plays" not EP. Same with the first mention of an EP in the lead.
  • Was "Lap of Honour" released in Japan or only in Japan. May want to make that clear.
  • The Year columns need to be center-aligned. This isn't a big deal in most of the tables, but for some reason the years in "Miscellaneous" table look a little funky to me.
I think that's only because it had its width set to 33. I removed it, must be better now. indopug (talk) 02:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • British Phonographic Industry should be wikilinked in citation #6.
  • B-Unique is called "B-Unique" in the first table, but "B-Unique Records" in the last one.
  • Is it really necessary to wikilink "interviews" in the lead?
  • "It did well on the charts" is a little opinion-y. I think the sentence is stronger without. Drewcifer (talk) 21:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added your suggestions. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 04:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't force the bolded title in the lead.
  • Is there a particular reason "You Can Have It All" isn't in the singles chart? I know it's "limited edition" and all that junk, but it's still a single. You can specify it's availability very easily with a footnote while still including it in the singles table. Drewcifer (talk) 19:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 19:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further Its looking very good now; I just have minor points.

  • There's a lot of redundant code: assigning width to the Year column is unnecessary as the width of "Year" and "2008" (any year for that matter) is the same. align="left" is redundant as it is the default setting to align it that way. See my edit to the singles table.
  • rowspan="1" is redundant too.
  • <br> should be <br /> to allow XHTML compatibility
  • There are still a few; ctrl+F for <br> and then replace.
  • I think BBC.co.uk and Billboard.com should actually be BBC and Billboard in the references.--indopug (talk) 20:00, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I still see quite a few. Again, use ctrl F. indopug (talk) 11:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 03:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Went over it again. I believe I got them all this time -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 16:25, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support -- Nice work. indopug (talk) 17:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 05:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is it "Kaiser Chiefs are currently recording their third album", or "Kaiser Chiefs is currently recording their third album". There's only one band, but it sounds odd as "is". I'm unsure of this. A wikilink to discography in the first sentence would be nice, but I think everyone else has covered the things to be resolved.

Support Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 17:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops.. make that Conditional support. The ordering of sections should follow the ordering of the infobox. Or vica-versa. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 17:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done -- Underneath-it-All (talk) 19:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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