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The list was promoted by Giants2008 00:09, 26 January 2013 [1].

John Le Mesurier on stage, radio, screen and record

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Nominator(s): SchroCat (talk) 05:35, 21 December 2012 (UTC) and CassiantoTalk 10:13, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With appearances in over 100 films, plus an extensive stage and television repertoire, John Le Mesurier was a tireless character actor who appeared in some of the most well-known films of the twentieth century, but is perhaps best known for his portrayal of Arthur Wilson in the BBC television comedy Dad's Army. This record of his professional work has recently been split away from the main "Le Mez" page as it was out of place there and not a full reflection of his work. Aside from that, we are now nominating this for featured list status because we believe that it now satisfies the criteria. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 05:35, 21 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 10:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments just a few quick ones, I hate to see nominations without any comments...
  • Check for Peter Sellers copy-and-paste errors....(!)
  • Lead image caption, very rare to see it centrally aligned. (But a perfect photo...)
  • Check WP:YEAR e.g. 1912–1983 should be 1912–83...
  • How can that be more precise? He's unlikely to have lived until 2083 is he?! The Rambling Man (talk) 22:17, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Precise inasmuch that the full dates are there. It was not an attempt to clarify that he was 71 and not 171 years old, obviously. Aesthetically, it is better IMO and, who knows, it may prevent someone clicking off to the main article to find an *exact* date when they could stay here to find out that information should the wish to know it. Would you prefer the year range version?
  • "He is best remembered for his role" reference or just your opinion?
  • Link BBC first time in the lead.
  • Palladium Theatre (Edinburgh) isn't even mentioned in our dab page, perhaps that needs updating.
  • Link "captain" appropriately.
  • You explain what BAFTA means two paras after using it. Seems arse about face to me.
  • A lot of blank cells for "Role"... why?
  • Would be nice to have tables with same column widths rom section to section where same/similar headings apply.
  • Not sure you need his own valedictory jammed in the discog section.

The Rambling Man (talk) 21:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not at all keen on references being attached to the table captions, but I suppose without introductory paras for each section, you have little choice........
  • Great: now changed as above. (I don't know why io varied from the Sellers format for that - seems a bit obvious in hindsight!) Cheers RM, and thanks for your always-appreciated thoughts. - SchroCat (talk) 13:35, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from --Tomcat (7) 17:01, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Shouldn't the dates be sorted chronologically?
  • You could centre his name in the picture's caption
  • There is an odd error next to "Don't Bother to Knock"
  • In the discography section, shouldn't "Warner Bros." link to "Warner Bros. Records"?
  • Both Dr & Mr are written correctly in British English in not carrying the full stop. Where the films or the roles are shown in the sources in the American form we have followed them. (Thus the film Mr. Topaze carries the full stop because that's how it was released). - SchroCat (talk) 04:41, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)
Comments from Crisco 1492
  • Image's current FUR is inadequate. This is not "at the top of his/her biographical article". I question the need for an image at all, to be honest, if we don't have a free one (I didn't use one at Chrisye discography or List of songs recorded by Chrisye, for instance)
  • "light entertainment" - The article light entertainment gives a very different definition. Double check which is correct.
  • See this academic study for a more appropriate definition of LE. (Just by way of background, the definition is vague and originally covered what came under the BBC Light Entertainment department, which seems to have covered most things! It has since broadened into general use). - SchroCat (talk) 06:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "including film, radio and theatre. Le Mesurier's career on stage, radio, film, television and record ..." - Repetition much?
  • "The Marvellous History of St Bernard" - Marvelous... but can you tell us anything about the production? Stage drama or TV show? Who's the author?
  • Citation needed tags.
  • "... in over 100 films, all of which were in supporting roles;" - The films were in supporting roles? I've offered an alternative
  • That's a lot of info about his death when it has very little to do with his career. Perhaps instead of that you could offer us some of his best-received works.
  • Being a supporting player most of the time, he didn't come to the attention of the critics most of the time (not really with anything workable for the lead). I could offer some of their words that appeared in his various obituaries, around his style of acting and place in cinema. Would that suit? - SchroCat (talk) 03:56, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re-worked final para in lead to bring out Le Mez's approach to acting, and how he was viewed by critics on his death, while still covering basic details of death. Please feel free to ce if you think it's too much. - SchroCat (talk) 12:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 13:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Seems to be on a par with the Sellers list, nice work. Just have a few comments:

Other than that, it all looks good. Incidentally, I've got my own FLC: HMV's Poll of Polls. If you have the time, I welcome any comments on it. Thanks very much! A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:46, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 13:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your support. I'd love to have that pic on the page - and a few others dotted throughout, but without supporting text to discuss etc, it doesn't get over the threshold of fair use. Unfortunately Le Mez is in that time period where his works are all still well within copyright, but before people took decent pics on cameras or phones at premieres, or in the street etc. I've left a begging note with Allan warren to see if he has anything, but unless something crops up later it'll be an image-free zone unfortunately. - SchroCat (talk) 20:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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