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International Film Music Critics Association Award for Best Original Score for a Video Game or Interactive Media edit

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Nominator(s): ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 18:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it's a complete coverage of the award. I have split the table into individual tables, illustrated this article with pictures of the composers, and checked references. Thanks to User:TophatCounselor who built the first version of this article. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 18:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by A. C. Santacruz edit

Drive-by comments: Two quick things that stand out are the use of individual tables (a single large table with a year column is generally preferred) and the placement of winners (winners are generally placed before all other nominations in a given year). RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:30, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have a discussion about the single table vs multiple tables? I went multiple tables because I've been told it screen readers to use rowspans and colspans (I actually was trying to find a way around it for citations...) as well as allow the article to be illustrated. Of course, I can convert it back.
As for the row winners, done. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 03:27, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The single table format has been the trend for a while; ChrisTheDude recently traced it at another FLC. I've also used single-table formats for most of my FLCs, and I've found it useful because it allows sorting to be added. I wouldn't mind something like the FL Academy Award for Best Actress, which splits by decade, but splitting by year just adds too much whitespace, in my opinion. As to the rowspan/colspan part, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but those should be added to the tables. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:54, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I have combined the tables, thanks for the information. I'll keep it in mind for the future. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 17:04, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Resolved comments from ~~~~
*Wow, what an unwieldy title, but I guess there's nothing you can do about that :-)
    • Yeah, I wish I could shorten it. Abbreviations are about the only option, unless I want to write to the IFMCA </kidding-kinda>....
  • For me, the single table format should definitely be used. Having 15 separate tables (which will only increase year on year) does not look good to me, and in at least one case it creates unnecessary whitespace as the image alongside the table is taller than the table.
    • Fixed While I prefer the multiple table format, it does appear that consensus is against me.
  • The lead feels a little bit "thin" to me, is there no more that can be said? Have there been multiple-time winners? Multiple-time nominees?
    • Fixed - Could you take a quick look and make sure it reads right? I've been staring at it way too long...
  • "In the tables below, winners are marked by a light green background and a double-dagger symbol (double-dagger)." - I would place this under the "winners and nominees" header, not in the lead
    • Fixed
  • Images captions which are not complete sentences (which is pretty much all of them) should not have full stops
  • Some of the refs list no work/publisher eg 1, 29, 30, 31, 32
    • Fixed
  • There's no need to list the same group/body/whatever as both the work and publisher eg ref 8, 9, 10, etc
    • Fixed
  • IMFCA is not the author of refs 2, 3, 5, etc, because IMFCA is not a person
  • Kinetophone is not the author of ref 14, 16 or 18 because Kinetophone is not a person. Also, Wordpress is not the publisher, because that is just a website hosting platform.
    • Fixed
  • Also, if it's "only" a Wordpress site, can you confirm what makes it a reliable source?
    • If you click "about us" on the site, you get redirected to the bio of Eleni Mitsiaki, who is a member of the IFMCA as well as a published journalist. She would then be a "recognized expert" under WP:RSEDITORIAL.
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB) edit

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. | Party becomes !scope=col | Party.
  • Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. | style=" color:white;" | 1 becomes !scope=row style="color:white;" | 1.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 19:20, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support and (pass) source review from Gerald Waldo Luis edit

Not sure what intrigued me to make these comments; the fact that the title is uniquely long, or that I am fond of soundtracks. But anyways. GeraldWL 07:29, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 02:07, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
* In the first paragraph's quote, is the "[...]" really needed, considering you start the quote mid-sentence?
  • "The award period" --> "The awarding period"
  • Suggest establishing in the lead when was the award introduced
  • In the image caption, "Logo" should be decapitalized
  • "As of 2022, 58 composers have been nominated for the International Film Music Critics Association Award for Best Original Score for a Video Game or Interactive Media." Shouldn't this be the first sentence of the paragraph?
  • "Austin Wintory has been nominated eight times and won three. [...] Wintory is the only composer to have been nominated twice in the same year, which happened in 2016." --> "Austin Wintory has been nominated eight times and won three; he is the only composer to have been nominated twice in the same year, which happened in 2016."
  • In the infobox's "Most nominations" parameter, Wintory can be unlinked since it's duplicate linking.
  • "Company(s)" --> "Compan(y/ies)"
  • "Sources" can be changed with Template:Refh
  • "(theme)" --> "(theme music)"
  • For the abbreviations of the platforms ("iOS", "Linux" etc) I think they should be linked.
  • In some of the image captions you describe what the person is doing in said image, while in others you dont; I suggest dropping those descriptions.


Additionally I've done a source spotcheck and they all look good, the sources are also reliable. However some concerns:

  • In ref 1, "| IFCMA: International Film Music Critics Association" is redundant
  • All "IFCMA"s must be extended to "International Film Music Critics Association"
    • I've expanded it for the publisher. I opted to leave titles with "IFCMA" as that is the official title of the article in all cases.
  • In the Variety reference you link to the Variety article, but you don't do the same for other refs. Also "Variety Media LLC" must be "Penske Media Corporation"; similar case with the AwardsCircuit, ColonneSonore.net, and TheWrap refs. LLCs also don't have to be mentioned.
  • If ref 12 is a dead link and no archives can be found, it must be replaced with a different source.
  • AwardsDaily, AwardsWatch, and Massively Overpowered should be in website parameter instead of publisher.
All done, except for a couple of notes above. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 19:04, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looks all good now. Support and source pass. Nice work! GeraldWL 02:07, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A single comment from Panini! edit

Accessibility and sources look good per the two above me, so only one thing is barring my support; I find it quite odd that Austin Wintory doesn't have a photo here, despite having the most awards and nominations. Could this image be cropped down and used? Panini! • 🥪 22:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to already be a cropped version available, here. GeraldWL 01:04, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done Image (re-)added. ~ Matthewrb Talk to me · Changes I've made 05:57, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good Job! Panini! • 🥪 13:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --PresN 20:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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