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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 16:35, 27 June 2011 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Long Form Music Video

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Nominator(s): Crystal Clear x3 22:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe it meets the criteria. Crystal Clear x3 22:07, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Resolved comments from Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
:*There is one dablink and several external link errors.
fixed
fixed
fixed (but I've left the title unlinked and as Rhythm Nation 1814 since its most likely a video from her 1989 tour and because Rock On The Net simply lists the name as that.)
  • I think {{n/a}} would be better than dashes in empty cells
done

Adabow (talk · contribs) 01:46, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your inout. I believe I have corrected all the problems you pointed out. If there are anymore please let me know. Crystal Clear x3 02:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rock on the Net is unreliable. Use [2] as the general ref and replace other ref(s)
done
  • You cannot simply remove links if they are dead. I have found many dead Grammy.com links at the wayback machine.
Thanks.

Adabow (talk · contribs) 02:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:43, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Should use the spaced en-dash, not spaced hyphen between artist and song title in the table.
fixed
  • Same for year ranges, although in the prose I'd prefer to see just "In 1984 and 1985".
fixed
  • "a musical program must be" program? I thought we were talking about videos?
fixed
  • "It was then subjected to another title change..." -> "It was renamed in..."?
fixed
  • "The Grammy Award for Best Short Form Music Video recipients include the artists, directors, and producers ..." not in 1984 or 1985...!
fixed
  • "The Girlie Show - Live Down Under';" is that semi colon needed?
fixed
  • "award winner for directing the music video," which one is "the" music video?
done
  • Avoid all caps in the ref (e.g ref 3).
fixed
  • Rolling Stones are The Rolling Stones.
fixed
  • Comma needed between Hammer and Don't.
fixed
  • Image captions that are complete sentences need full stops (e.g. Sting's caption).
fixed
  • Beach Boys is The Beach Boys.
fixed
  • And once again, White Stripes -> The White Stripes.
done
  • Don't have see also links for things you've already linked in the article.
done

The Rambling Man (talk) 17:54, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have corrected all of the above issues. Crystal Clear x3 21:28, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comments: References look good. You should use the sortname template in the Performing artist(s) column so that artists sort by last name rather than first name. Also, be sure to watch capitalization based on Manual of Style (see my edit to the list for examples). I imagine some of the nominated works need to be linked. At least on my browser, one or two additional images could be displayed along the side. More thorough review to follow. --Another Believer (Talk) 16:38, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your edits to the article and advice. I have added several more images to the 'recipients' sections and used sortname in the performing artists column. Crystal Clear x3 20:59, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments: I think it looks very good, but there are some things to do...


    • In 1993, the name of the video is Diva not Drive
done
    • I think Madonna's videos are very well representated in wikipedia, I believe that you could find the link to all of them.
done
    • In 1998, Steve Purcell is credited as director, along Morissette.
done

Jaespinoza (talk) 04:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your input. I have corrected the above problems. Crystal Clear x3 05:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Jaespinoza (talk) 23:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • "The several honored categories are presented...". The grammar here doesn't seem to be as good as what is usually in these Grammy Award lists. I looked at the Short Form list for an example, and it started a similar sentence with "Honors in several categories are presented...". I admire the fact that you're looking for additional improvement in this series of lists, but in this case I think a fix was applied to something that wasn't broken.
done
  • Check the sorting in the Performing artist(s) column. Huey Lewis and the News doesn't seem to be sorting in the proper alphabetical order. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:38, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was not sure how to properly correct that (I tried to sort it like : Huey Lewis and the News - Huey Lewis| and the News) so I just removed the sort template and put them in link brackets. Crystal Clear x3 05:04, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I think it will be helpful if you add below the images for which video they got the award. done
  • Try archiving the pdf links, they disappear too soon. ..........I do not know how to do that
  • The Work column is not sorting alphabetically. The Beatles Love – All Together Now is coming in the second position. fixed
  • En-dash for The Girlie Show - Live Down Under. done
  • En-dash for Trapped in the Closet Chapters 13-22 done
  • En-dash for "Charles Dutoit & The Montreal Symphony Orchestra - The Planets" done
  • This is confusing. --> Ella Fitzgerald – American Masters: Ella Fitzgerald – Something to Live For. Isnt the videos name American Masters: Ella Fitzgerald – Something to Live For? So the whole name should be italicized. fixed

— Legolas (talk2me) 10:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support, great work and as for archiving the links, I would take that request off-FLC, as it does not hinder me in supporting the article. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:02, 20 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from That Ole Cheesy Dude (Talk to the hand!) 08:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Cheesy (only a few)
  • "In order to quality" should be "In order to qualify".

done

  • "Between 1984 and 1985, this accolade was originally known as Best Video Album. It was renamed in 1986, being awarded as Best Music Video, Long Form." This seems a bit clunky and doesn't read well in 2 sentences, try "From 1984 to 1985, the accolade was known as Best Video Album, but in 1986, it was renamed to Best Music Video, Long Form."

done

After that, consider my vote a support. Great work. That Ole Cheesy Dude (Talk to the hand!) 16:11, 26 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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