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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by SchroCat 08:12, 3 August 2015 [1].

Grammy Award for Best Latin Pop Album edit

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Nominator(s): Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is well referenced and is modeled after several featured lists about the Grammy Awards, Latin Grammy Awards and Lo Nuestro Awards. I will be watching this nomination closely in order to follow your recommendations. Thanks in advance. Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from FrB.TG

  • Second sentence of second para is too long. Count the words (98).
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref. 16, 18, 21, 22, 23 and 28 should be changed from "Los Angeles Times. Tribune Company" to "Los Angeles Times (Tribune Company)" to maintain consistency.
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Billboard Staff" is redundant as seen in ref. 43 and 44.
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A QPQ? -- Frankie talk 20:51, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – Like AB said, the list looks great. -- Frankie talk 08:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: It has been a long time since I've promoted or even endorsed an FL, but I think this list looks really great and appears to be consistent with similar featured Grammy lists. Well done! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:21, 21 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you AB, very proud of this, I am very glad that you liked it, I am a big fan of your work. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Erick (talk) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is a comment.

Comments from Magiciandude

  • Capitalize the "l" in "Latin"
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Tribune Company" should be "Tribune Publishing" as it is now a separate publishing company since 2014
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no hyphen between "Puerto" and "Rican". It's simply Puerto Rican
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • For Billboard articles published between 1989 and 2009, publisher is Nielsen N.V.. Anything before 1989 is just "News Media".
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jose Feliciano is not a singer-songwriter as he does not solely compose and perform his own songs (see the article). Should either be "singer and songwriter" or just use "musician"
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Include the page number for Refs #13 and #19 as the source is a newspaper scan
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise it looks good. Erick (talk) 11:34, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Erick!. Javier Espinoza (talk) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great job as always! Erick (talk) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but you could just fix one more thing? On Ref 7, you listed it as a journal when it's a book. It also states that's in Spanish when the books is actually written in English. Erick (talk) 18:48, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 21:14, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome! Good job! Erick (talk) 21:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • A five-paragraph lead is far too long for a list like this...
The lead has only four and I still think is short, there are 31 winners in the category. I think it is correct as is. Javier Espinoza (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Table needs !scope="row" tags
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 18:15, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed (Thanks (Erick). Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The second paragraph of the lead could probably be condensed to two sentences.
This category had a lot of changes, but I'll try to edit the paragraph.
  • That year recordings in this category were shifted to the newly formed Best Latin Pop, Rock or Urban Album violation of MOS:BOLDTITLE.
Ok, fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Puerto Rican American singer hyphen after "Puerto"
Erick asked me to remove it, which suggestion should I take into consideration? Javier Espinoza (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I think Erick's right, our article Puerto Rican American doesn't hyphenate. Seattle (talk) 00:10, 25 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I will fix it. Javier Espinoza (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 18:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Seattle: I know this isn't my nomination, but I've never seen a hyphen between "Puerto" and "Rican" anywhere in the English language. Not even the article uses them. Could you point out where a hyphen must be included between those two words? Erick (talk) 03:55, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Azealia911 talk 13:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Azealia911
  • All of the images need alts.
  • Some of the albums are redlinks, some are not, either remove them all or link all albums.
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some of the album titles are presented "Like This", while others are presented Like This, what's with that?
I will edit lead section to explain this. Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the 2007 double-win, rowspan everything, no need for two listings. I'd also remove the coloring and just make a note next to the year. In case you're unsure of what I mean, this is it.
Fixed, and thank your for your suggestion, I followed the format from another featured list Latin Grammy Award for Producer of the Year, but this looks better. Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • For 2012, change the 3 N/A's to colspan="3" {{N/A|Not awarded}}, demonstrated here again.
Fixed. Javier Espinoza (talk) 20:01, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • None of the references given back up the Also awarded section. Another, significantly bigger problem with refs, the ref for 2014's listing doesn't even say who won, it's just a list of nominees. Not checked all references but it's probably a good idea to make sure that the reference lists the nominees, who won, and who exactly is awarded.
It is a very good point. I added a general reference for the winners every year, just like a did for another FL, Lo Nuestro Award for Pop Album of the Year. Javier Espinoza (talk) 19:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose at the moment, based on the reference issue I found, I'll happily strike it if it's turned around. Azealia911 talk 23:17, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Azealia911: Again, not the nominator but I'd like to address some things in your comments. If you click on "Past Winners Search", on the General section it shows not only who won the awards in the field, but any shared awards as well. The reason some titles are listed in quotations instead is because the awards used to award songs as well when it was called Best Latin Pop Performance (I'll admit this may need to be clarified on the article). Erick (talk) 23:59, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
In regards to the refs, thanks for pointing that out, I suggest to the nominator to just replace all Refs. in the column with the general ref, considering they're more informative, what do you think? And yes, the quotes could be further explained, even if it just means bolding the past names of the award in the lead. Azealia911 talk 00:13, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Azealia911: The only problem with that is that it only displays the winners and not the nominees. See Grammy Award for Best Pop Vocal Album as an example of how it's usually done. Erick (talk) 00:22, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With all my comments resolved, I can happily Support. Would also appreciate any feedback on my current FLC, cheers. Azealia911 talk 13:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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