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Coldplay videography

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Nominator(s): GustavoCza (talk) 18:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Good afternoon, this is my first FL nomination since the List of awards and nominations received by Coldplay. It's the listings of the band's visual work, as their music videos section on Coldplay discography was getting way too big. All old sources were checked, corrected and replaced. Please feel free to note any detail I might have forgotten.

Comments from ChrisTheDude

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

*"appearing on many television shows throughout their career as well" - this should probably be "as well as appearing on many television shows throughout their career". However, the Television section further only down only lists four appearances. Four is not "many" "with the former receiving a MTV Video Music Award for Best Art Direction." - unsourced ""Strawberry Swing", which received three UK Music Video Awards" - unsourced "The record spawned "Princess of China" and "Hurts Like Heaven" as well" => "The record also spawned "Princess of China" and "Hurts Like Heaven"" "The former won a MTV Video Music Award for Best Rock Video, while the latter received two silver prizes at the Clio Awards. " - all unsourced "Harvey (pictured in 2021) guested on numerous music videos as an easter egg" - show (and link) his full name The captions to all the images beside the table are complete sentences, so they need full stops Some of the captions say that something happened "on [video title]" - the "on" should be "in" "A man enters an elevator" = "A man enters a lift" (UK subject so UK term should be used) "The band performs the song" => "The band perform the song" (appears more than once) "on a slow motion sequence" => "in a slow motion sequence" "Coldplay performs the song" => "Coldplay perform the song" (appears more than once) "enhanced to appear as Coldplay were performing the song" => "enhanced to appear as though Coldplay were performing the song" "The band climbs a hill and reaches" => "The band climb a hill and reach" "It features numerous footage" - "footage" is singular, so it can't be "numerous" "Both versions of the music video has" => "Both versions of the music video have" "at Viva la Vida Tour" => "on the Viva la Vida Tour" "with Jay-Z appearing trough a television screen" => "with Jay-Z appearing through a television screen" "the band appears as puppets" => "the band appear as puppets" "Harvey appears as one the parents" => "Harvey appears as one of the parents" "in front of River Thames" => "in front of the River Thames" "The band plays across various backdrops" => "The band play across various backdrops" "meets up his girlfriend" => "meets up with his girlfriend" "where the band is playing" => "where the band are playing" "where sound and colour is completely forbidden." => "where sound and colour are completely forbidden." "who performs on a traveling circus" => "who performs in a traveling circus" "As their work continue" => "As their work continues" "(including Harvey dressed as a koala" - you open a bracket but don't close it "an aspirant ballerina" => "an aspiring ballerina" "Black and white footages of the band performing the song fade into each other" - "footage" can't be plural, so maybe replace with "shots" "An animated version the Ghost Stories (2014) album cover" => "An animated version of the Ghost Stories (2014) album cover" "come across a Beats Bill" - isn't it called a Beats Pill.....? "Each one of them were designed" => "Each one of them was designed" "two silves prizes" - silver is spelt wrongly "The Chainsmokers performing on a festival" => "The Chainsmokers performing at a festival" "while Coldplay performs the song." => "while Coldplay perform the song." "Inspired on George Orwell's Animal Farm" => "Inspired by George Orwell's Animal Farm" "Martin explore its cities and meet" => "Martin explores its cities and meets" None of the descriptions in the TV section should have full stops Same for the films "Commercials" => "Advertisements" (UK term) "Martin took part on the "Garth & Kat" segment" => "Martin took part in the "Garth & Kat" segment" That's what I got........ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:26, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Hello Chris, I'll see the other stuff later once I arrive at my house, but the awards are not unsourced, the references are on each video's description. GustavoCza (talk) 16:46, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Gotcha. This sentence is wrong, though: "It was followed by the singles "Shiver", "Yellow", "Trouble" and "Don't Panic" from Parachutes (2000), with the former receiving a MTV Video Music Award for Best Art Direction." In that sentence "the former" is "Shiver", but according to the table it was "Trouble" that won the award -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:13, 21 June 2022 (UTC) Thank you for the notes, I can't believe I let some of this stuff get past me. You left me with one doubt though: one editor at Coldplay's main article said photos don't need a stop/period on their captions, but you're saying they do. So_what_is_the_truth_oprah.gif GustavoCza (talk) 20:49, 21 June 2022 (UTC) See MOS:CAPFRAG, which says "Most captions are not complete sentences, but merely sentence fragments, which should not end with a period or full stop. If any complete sentence occurs in a caption, then all sentences, and any sentence fragments, in that caption should end with a period or full stop." Hope this helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:43, 23 June 2022 (UTC) I feel like Wikipedians should just put a period in all captions and call it a day. But anyway, just edited the page according to what you said. Any further notes? -- GustavoCza (talk) 11:26, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Further comments from ChrisTheDude

• I found it very hard to believe that Coldplay have only appeared on TV seven times in a career spanning more than 20 years, and needless to say they haven't. Here for example is them appearing on The Graham Norton Show in 2021, here is them appearing on the same show in 2016, here they are on it yet again (unsure of year), here they are on The Voice in 2021, here they are on The Tonight Show in 2021. I bet there are dozens more. Were you intending this section to only include occasions when they did more than just perform one song? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:49, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

• Yes! I want to make a List of Live Performances page in the future, but that is going to take A LOT of work. Coldplay has performed live an insane amount of times, Everyday Life was their least promoted era and you can still find a lot of stuff, including the broadcast in Jordan (that one was included in Videography due to being a film, and their films are easier to track). GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 12:14, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

• In that case maybe change the section header to something like "Major television appearances" or "notable television appearances" or something like that, as currently it does kinda imply that these are literally the only times Coldplay have appeared on TV...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:07, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

  I changed it to "Television appearances", in contrast with "Television performances". Anything else? GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 11:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Pamzeis

Hopefully, I will not screw this up

• "released 64 music videos, four video albums and four films," — consistency is needed per MOS:NUM
  • "Integers greater than nine expressible in one or two words may be expressed either in numerals or in words". The guidelines don't prohibit me from writing like I did. In fact, it's the most used way I have seen around discography and award pages.
• "appearing on multiple television shows throughout their career as well" — while I understand what this bit is trying to say, it feels quite awkward to me. Can it be reworded?
  • I've tried before, nothing good so far.
• ""In My Place" and "The Scientist", which was nominated" — which one was nominated?
  • Solved. It's "The Scientist".
• "campaign was then completed" — removed then as redundant
  • Solved.
• "anticipation for their fourth album Viva la Vida" — comma after album
  • Solved.
• "two versions of "Viva la Vida" available" — I think more context is needed for what "Viva La Vida" is, as I thought it was the album before clicking on the link
  • Album titles are in italic and song titles are in quotes, I think that's very much clear already.
• "The record also spawned" — ...what is "the record" referring to?
  • "The record" is always referring to the album last mentioned. The Mylo Xyloto record spawned "Princess of China" and "Hurts Like Heaven".
• "an interactive project" — can you clarify whether it's just the last one or all of them or something?
  • Solved.
• "(1979) which had its final" — comma before which
  • Solved.
• "following it with" — is "it" the song or the album?
  • I wrote that thinking about the song, but it also applies to the AHFOD album since "Adventure of a Lifetime" is the only video released prior to 4 December 2015.
• "The record's marketing campaign" — what is "the record"?
  • "The record" is always referring to the album last mentioned. The A Head Full of Dreams record had its campaign finished with "A Head Full of Dreams" and "Everglow".
• "Everyday Life (2019) had six music videos" — kinda awkward
  • Solved.
• Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, titles of works (such as albums, films or television shows) should be italicised in citations
  • I'm pretty sure all of them are in this list. --GustavoCza (talk) 18:34, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Hope this helps :) Pamzeis (talk) 04:49, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

This nomination has been open for three months without a single support vote; @ChrisTheDude and Pamzeis: are either of you willing to support or oppose? --PresN 01:47, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, I totally forgot about this one. Took another look and now happy to support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:09, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

Support from NapHit

• The last sentence in the first paragraph could do with a citation
  • The citation is on the video's description below.
• 'Meanwhile, X&Y (2005) spawned the singles "Speed of Sound", "Fix You", "Talk" and "The Hardest Part".' Feels a bit odd to be starting this sentence with 'Meanwhile' when the previous sentence is talking about an album that was released three years previously. The use of meanwhile makes it read like this happened concurrently, I'd swap meanwhile for a better opening that doesn't confuse the time gap between the albums.
  • Solved.
• 'Months later...' How many months later? This is a bit wishy-washy, I'd be more specific here, even saying the two versions of Vida la Vida were released in x month... etc.
  • Solved.
• The third paragraph has zero references. I know most of this is mostly referenced in the tables below, but I'd like to see a few references here. Christmas lights for example and instances when videos won an award.
  • Everything on the head is referenced in the tables, I don't see the need to crowd the text with them.
• Another sentence staring with 'Meanwhile' at the end of the fourth para. It reads oddly when we're talking about events that happened after those of the previous sentence.
  • Solved.
• The directors column should sort by surname
  • Solved.
• "Despite publishing the music video in their official website..." in should be on
  • Solved.
• "The band perform the song on a studio..." in a studio. On a studio would imply they're performing on top of the studio
  • Solved.
• " The music video was planned to include..." change planned to meant
  • Solved.
• 'Martin perform the song on a grand piano..." perform should be performs
  • Solved.
• "It has won a MTV Video Music Award for Best Rock Video." no need for has, just write 'It has won an MTV...'
  • Solved.
• "The music video combines live action puppetry, digitally painted sets and traditional animation to tell the story of a young girl lost in the sea and sailing towards the unknown, symbolising the memories she has of her father. It has won two silver prizes at the Clio Awards." should be lost at sea, and again simply 'It won...'
  • Solved.

That's all from me. NapHit (talk) 20:57, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for not answering sooner, I assume the notification for your edit was lost in the middle of my e-mails mess. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 21:49, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

No problem, I've added some of the references from the tables to the lead as well, as I wasn't comfortable with the lack of citations in the lead. They can be easily duplicated, so just duplicating a few does no harm. All my concerns are addressed now. NapHit (talk) 19:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Okay, this nomination has been open way too long. I've looked through the list, and while I dislike some of the ways you've spanned the year and director columns, I'm good to promote. Source review passed as well. --PresN 14:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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