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Bruno Mars videography edit

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Nominator(s): MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it is a comprehensive look at Bruno Mars' videography to today. It contains an introduction and sortable list of the music videos, directors and a small description of the video's plot. I'll try to update it constantly as new videos are released, like I have done with all the works for the artist mentioned above. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 16:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:28, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
*Comments on the lead
    • "various music videos, films, television shows, and one television commercial" - last sentence of the lead says two commercials
    • "After guest appearing in music videos, including "Long Distance" and "Wavin' Flag (Coca-Cola Celebration Mix)", between 2008 and 2010" - say who these were by
    • "he was first featured on the hooks" - what does this mean?
    • "His work with the Dechard" - presume that "the" is not meant to be there
    • "He has appeared on Saturday Night Live three times; by the second time he appeared" - word "by" should not be there
  • I will look at the tables later -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments on the tables
    • Songs starting with "the" should sort on the next word
    • "The video features photo backdrops of other cities like London and Tokyo." - other than what?
    • "of beautiful women pictures" => "of pictures of beautiful women"
    • "in a scene B.o.B plays guitar" => "in one scene B.o.B plays guitar"
    • "Mars artistic abilities" => "Mars's artistic abilities"
    • "In the way to her house, he meets some unpleasant personas" => "On the way to her house, he meets some unpleasant people"
    • "just to find his beloved with another man" => "and then finds his beloved with another man"
    • "ends up in a railroad track" => "ends up on a railroad track"
    • "a psychedelic, "acid trip" setting" - no reason for comma there
    • "were several women are dancing" => "where several women are dancing"
    • "As she has been "fooling around" with someone else's man (Mars). " - this is not a complete sentence
    • "Isabella and Mars' affair" => earlier the article uses "Mars's" - be consistent
    • "Then, the former performers" => performs
    • "in a piano" => on a piano (presumably, unless he is actually inside it)
    • " followed by her coming in Mars' room." => " followed by her coming into Mars' room."
    • "Finesse (song) link needs to be piped
    • "sing to one and another." => "sing to one another."
  • HTH -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Adressed every comment except the first one on the table as I'm not sure what you want there. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 15:21, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"The Lazy Song", for example, should sort as if it starts with L, and the same thing for other songs that start with the word "The". You will need to use a {{sort}} template -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:03, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Everything was addressed. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:36, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You didn't do the sort template quite right - I have fixed it for you -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:31, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the comments and fixes. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:46, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe ) 16:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Comments I will submit this review as part of the WikiCup.
  • "Bruno Mars performing in Houston, Texas on November 24, 2010" should have a GEOCOMMA after Texas.
  • You correctly use B.o.B. (with three periods) in the lead but not in the table.
  • I'm not clear what a "home video" is in this context, is it a homemade job?
  • Link stop motion.
  • Five paras in the lead is a little too much per MOS:LEAD. If you need all that explanatory text, consider moving some of it to the relevant sections below and have a true lead which summarises the article as a whole rather than carrying all the prose.
  • CeeLo has no space.
  • "doesn't" avoid contractions.
  • No need to link major geographical locations like London or Tokyo, they are well known, unambiguous and it's unlikely a reader would ever suddenly want to click on those in this context.
  • "Victoria’s Secret" avoid curly apostrophe per MOS:CURLY.
  • "FOX " our article on that show just calls it Fox.
  • "K'Naan" -> "K'naan"
  • What does "Himself" mean when the role he was playing was called "Little Elvis"?
It was Mars himself, expect younger.
  • Channels should be linked every time in the TV appearances table because it's sortable.
  • No point in having a sortable table (commercials) when only one item is listed.
  • Consistent formatting for ref columns, i.e. with hover-over text, unsortable etc.
  • Spaced hyphens in the ref titles should be en-dashes per MOS:DASH.

That's all I have. The Rambling Man (Stay indoors, stay safe!!!!) 08:42, 2 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man:First of all, thank you so much for your kind comments. Secondly, I have adressed every comment. I would also appreciated another look at the lead, to see if there are any other points I could summarise. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 14:27, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the comments and help. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing thoughts

  • I'm uncomfortable with the use of primary youtube sources
  • Ma, Jaeson; Mars, Bruno (performers); Chang, Michael (director); Chou, Christina (executive producer) (2010). "Love" (music video). is also a primary source
  • Idolator looks like a blog
  • Gold 1; Mars, Bruno; Ma, Jaeson (performers); Zagarini, Claudio; Zeynali, Michel (directors); Giorgilli, Vanni; Singer, Stephen (executive producers) (2012). "This Is My Love" (music video). is a primary source

--Guerillero | Parlez Moi 13:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Guerillero: Idolator is a reliable source. I removed Youtube as a primary source, adding others to replace it. However I can't find other sources, than YouTube for "Love" and This Is My Love" videos. Do you have any ideas to fix said issue? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I guess you can cite the videos themselves. But I really wish we had secondary sources. This feels like a perennial problems with videographies. Thank you for looking --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:04, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
At that time Mars was not the artist with the media coverage he has today. Moreover, I can't really remove those videos from his videography. I added the Youtube sources, better than the primary sources. Do you want me to archive them as well? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please. I think that is as good as we are going to get --Guerillero | Parlez Moi 00:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Guerillero: As of right now yes, If I do happen to come across better sources I will add them. I have address your concerns, if there is anything else I can do, let me know. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 00:55, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the comments and support. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 11:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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