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Alyssa Milano discography edit

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Nominator(s): Aoba47 (talk) 23:02, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Alyssa Milano is an American actor who had a successful music career in Japan in the 1980s and 1990s. I created and expanded the list following the successful promotion of List of songs recorded by Alyssa Milano to FLC. I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that it meets all of the requirements for a featured list. It is comprehensive in its content, and I have styled its structure after similar featured lists. I am still relatively inexperienced with working on a list, and putting something up for FLC so I would greatly appreciate feedback and comments on how to improve this and how I can improve lists in general. Thank you in advance! Aoba47 (talk) 23:02, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from FrB.TG
Resolved comments from FrB.TG (talk)
* "While acting on the television series" => "acting in"
  • Is full stop (or period) the part of We Are The Children's title?
  • Done. I had the wrong title anyway so I have corrected this here and in the table. Aoba47 (talk) 18:59, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am not sure if you need so many references in the lead. Some of them are quite unnecessary, such as the ones that are repeated later in the list. See WP:LEAD.
  • Removed most of them except for the first paragraph. Aoba47 (talk) 18:59, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "On May 21, 1990" - no need to be so specific. Just "In May 1990" should be enough.
  • "the United States Billboard Hot 100" - I only know one Billboard Hot 100 which is from the US.
  • "The song peaked at eleven on the United States Billboard Hot 100 chart and six on Billboard Adult Contemporary chart" - I would remove both "chart".
  • I could see you repeating this phrase in the lead "It was promoted through the single". This makes for a repetitive prose. Try to rearrange.
  • Tables under "As lead artist", "Music videos" and "Music video appearances" do not meet WP:ACCESS for row and col scopes (see MOS:DTT).
  • Thank you for catching this, and I apologize for my mistakes with this. I believe I have corrected this, but let me know if it needs further revision. Aoba47 (talk) 19:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Tables under "Music videos" and "Music video appearances" are still the same. The changes have only been made in "As lead artist". - FrB.TG (talk) 20:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: This may be really obvious, but I am not understand exactly what you mean (i have looked at WP:ACCESS and MOS:DTT and I am still lost). This is my first time working tables like this so could you possibly clarify what you mean? Thank you! I apologize for this >< Aoba47 (talk) 20:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is what I meant :P and don't apologize for not knowing anything. - FrB.TG (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, that makes sense. Not sure why I didn't see it before lol. Thank you for the help! Aoba47 (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am not aware about some of the references so I am avoiding comments based on that. - FrB.TG (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @FrB.TG: Thank you for your review! I have addressed all of your comments. Please let me know if there is anything else that needs improvement. I had to get a little creative with the references for the chart positions as they are 1) album and single releases from the late 1980s and early 1990s and 2) I found it extremely difficult to navigate the Oricon website as it does not have chart information that far readily accessible. There is a page on the Oricon website about Alyssa Milano, but unfortunately it just lists all of her releases and does not provide any of the chart information. I would be more than happy to try and find better sources if you and/or future reviewers on here request it, but this was the best I could do in terms of finding sources for the material. I think the references should be fine, but that can addressed in the source review so you don't have to worry about it. Thank you again for your help. Aoba47 (talk) 19:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support FrB.TG (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your help. I look forward to working with you more in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If that is so, you could perhaps review JLaw. You are a good reviewer IMO. - FrB.TG (talk) 20:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Thank you! I try my best to be as helpful as possible during reviews and use each chance to grow as a reviewer and contributor on here. I would love to review the article; I really enjoy her personality and think she is a phenomenal actress (though the whole butt-scratchin' story was a little cringey lol). I will put up a review by the end of the weekend if that is okay with you. Thank you again. Aoba47 (talk) 20:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support FrB.TG (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your help. I look forward to working with you more in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If that is so, you could perhaps review JLaw. You are a good reviewer IMO. - FrB.TG (talk) 20:40, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FrB.TG: Thank you! I try my best to be as helpful as possible during reviews and use each chance to grow as a reviewer and contributor on here. I would love to review the article; I really enjoy her personality and think she is a phenomenal actress (though the whole butt-scratchin' story was a little cringey lol). I will put up a review by the end of the weekend if that is okay with you. Thank you again. Aoba47 (talk) 20:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Vensatry
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
*"As of ..." is needed for most facts in the lead.
  • I do not believe that is necessary. I have only seen that sentence construction when referring to album/single sales (such as in Beyoncé discography) and I do not include any information on album/single sales (as it is unfortunately unavailable). You can point out specific spots where you believe that this would be helpful, but I do not find it necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was particular about the opening line of the lead. But given that she had no releases in the past 16 years, it's not a big deal. —Vensatry (talk) 18:12, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay. That is not a common practice for discographies; I have not seen any of the FLs for discographies use that construction so I did not believe it is necessary. Aoba47 (talk) 18:18, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "certified platinum." - A wikilink would be helpful for non-specialists.
  • Thank you for the fix for this. Aoba47 (talk) 18:19, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • On May 1990 -> In May 1990
  • Is 'spawned' encyclopedic?
  • I have seen it used several times in the context of single releases from an album (such as the featured article 4 (Beyoncé album)) so I believe it is acceptable for use on here. Aoba47 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • You use both numerals and words for 'positions'. Eg., number 68, number fifteen, number eighty-five.
  • Revised, and spelled out all of the numerals for the peak positions. Aoba47 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • In tables, the 'Album details' column is unsourced for the most part.
  • The information can be found in the Oricon source in the Peak chart positions/JPN header of the "Studio albums" chart. The source for the reissue can be found directly on the title and extends to the album details. The album details for the "Compilation albums" can be found either in the Oricon source in the header for "The Best in the World: Non-Stop Special Remix/Alyssa's Singles" or in the sources provided next to the title for "The Very Best of Alyssa Milano". The sources for the video releases can be found in the title portions, which also extends out into the album details so everything is in fact sourced. If you look at other discographies (such as Mandy Moore discography and Ashlee Simpson discography, then you can see that the "Album details" section is usually sourced from other parts of the table. I believe this is done to avoid repetition of the same source in the same table. Aoba47 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've come across reviewers that doubt the credibility of Huffington Post.
  • To my knowledge, the Huffington Post has been questioned as a reliable/credible source for more serious issues and claims (specifically politics or sciences), but I believe in this context it is acceptable. It is used to support some very basic and uncontroversial information (that Milano had her start in a television series). The same source was also found acceptable for use in the list List of songs recorded by Alyssa Milano that I had passed for FLC earlier in the year. Aoba47 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Be consistent in linking the publishers in refs.
  • I have linked all of the Oricon publishers in the references. Thank you for bringing it up, and let me know if there are any other issues with this.
  • OVGuide is linked in the second instance. —Vensatry (talk) 18:12, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added links for all the OVGuide references to be consistent. Aoba47 (talk) 18:17, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

—Vensatry (talk) 11:33, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Vensatry: Thank you for the review, and let me know if there is anything else that I can do to improve the list. Aoba47 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not my area, so supporting on the basis of prose and structure. —Vensatry (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Vensatry: Thank you for your review. I greatly appreciate your feedback as it has helped the article a lot. I look forward to working with you in the future, and good luck with your future edits. Aoba47 (talk) 18:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Carbrera
Resolved comments from Carbrera (talk)
:* I don't think "FRA" should be listed for Alyssa Milano in the reissues; she doesn't have any history of ever charting in that country, even though it was solely reissued there
  • Generally the United States is abbreviated as "US" instead of "U.S." on discography pages
  • Also, the citations are usually placed under the name of the chart instead of by the peak position
  • I put the citations by the peak position as the citation is specifically about that song's peak position. Putting it under the name of the chart would cause some confusion as they are not a general source for all things on the chart. Usually, the discography pages link directly to the main chart site, which has a comprehensive listing of all the appearances on the charts for that artist. However, Oricon does not have that for Alyssa Milano. They just list all of her releases without chart information. I hope that makes sense. Aoba47 (talk) 01:19, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Add a space in between "Released:" and "September 8, 1988" in the "Video releases" section
Everything else looks great. Carbrera (talk) 23:39, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Carbrera: Thank you for the review! I have addressed all of your points. Let me know if there is anything else that I can do to improve the list. Aoba47 (talk) 01:19, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support – all of my concerns have been addressed. Carbrera (talk) 02:51, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you as always, and I look forward to continuing to work with you in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 03:06, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Cartoon network freak
Resolved comments from Cartoon network freak (talk)
*two video releases → Although it might be word repetition, please state "video albums" here and link to Video
  • numbers above ten shouldn't be written out; check this for the entire lead
  • debuted as an actress on the television → debuted as an actress in television
  • While acting in the television series → Remove overfluous "the" + you have a word repetition here
  • with the Japanese record label → with Japanese record label
  • Milano's second album Alyssa was released later that year; it peaked at number fifteen on the Oricon Albums Chart → You use the same formula for describing her albums, please reword here + use "The singer" instead of Milano
  • Fixed. I have revised it in my own way instead as I am not a fan of using the phrase "the singer" for something like this. Aoba47 (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • certified platinum → certified Platinum (link the "Platinum" only)
  • "I Had a Dream" and "Happiness" were the two singles from the album. → For promotion, "I Had... were made available for purchase as its singles.
  • total of eight weeks on the Oricon Albums Chart and reached a peak position of nine → total of eight weeks in Japan and reached its highest position at number nine (word rep.)
  • We're Together". The song was followed by Milano's third studio → "We're Together", which was followed by the singer's third studio album
  • In the same year → In that same year (to make it clear)
  • and six on Billboard Adult → and at number six on Billboard Adult
  • in May 1992. The record peaked → in May 1992, and commercially charted
  • exclusively for France. The reissue was promoted → exclusively in France, being promoted
  • as a single in France → as a single in that territory (word rep.)
  • single "Josie" → add release year in brackets
  • I do not believe this is necessary. I already included the year of the video's release in 2000. The music video release date is the only important information here as the single release date does not really apply to her as she was not directly involved with the song or its recording. Also, I do not like including one instance of a year in parenthesis when I do not follow the same pattern for the rest of the lead. Aoba47 (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Infobox > Alyssa Milano at the Major League → no full name here
  • Infobox > Ballroom, 2008 → Ballroom in 2008
  • Infobox > Music video cameo → plural
  • Studio albums > JPN[4] → Place the ref below the territory it charted in for the whole article

I do not know what you mean by this. The reference 4 is already attached to the JPN part of the chart. I cannot move the rest of the references attached to the individual chart positions as they deal specifically with that album through alternative means (finding Oricon records on relatively obscure music releases is rather difficult). Please clarify this. Aoba47 (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reissues > Dream for France → Dream in France
  • Charity singles > According to the source, "Voices That Care" had been certified Platinum in the US
  • Video releases > Change name of the subtopic in "Video albums"
  • Music videos > Fixed here smth by myself
  • exercise video → Maybe this is a common term, but an average reader wouldn't understand it (as I do lol)
  • I am not sure there is a way to be more specific without sounding incredibly awkward. I think the term "exercise video" is fine as it currently stands, but it can be replaced with the term "workout video" but I believe it does not make that much of a difference. Aoba47 (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Aoba47 Here some comments ;) Best regards, Cartoon network freak (talk) 16:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Cartoon network freak: Thank you for your review. I will address your comments in a few days if that is okay as I will be too busy to do the corrections until the beginning of next week. Hope that is okay with you. Aoba47 (talk) 21:07, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Cartoon network freak: I have addressed your comments. I apologize for the delay. Let me know if there is anything else I can do to improve the list. I look forward to hearing back from you. Aoba47 (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

These were my final changes in order to give my support to this. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:03, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Cartoon network freak: Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 20:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Aoba47: Added a verified source for the Platinum award of "Voices That Care" in the US. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 20:32, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Aoba47 (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Source review: passed. Promoting. --PresN 21:28, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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