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The list was promoted 00:41, 28 February 2008.

Alice in Chains discography edit

Self-nomination I have been working on this list for the past few days, and it is already ready for FLC. I started work on it after Alice in Chains was promoted to FA status, and this list meets all FLC criteria. The band has no B-Sides, so please don't ask about them. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 05:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved stuff from Drewcifer

Comments The list looks great, and I only have a few extremely minor suggestions:

  • Naming the main section "Main albums" is a little wierd. I'd just recommend making each of the current sub-sections into their own full-fledged sections. Done
  • The catalog numbers should have a # before them, since it's kind of confusing without them. Done
  • Chart positions should be Chart peak positions or Peak chart positions or something like that. Just to be more specific. Done
  • Why is the Netherlands abbreviations as LND? It's typically NLD in discogs. Done
  • I would recommend making all of the album title columns similar widths. It would like much cleaner that way. Done
  • It appears that all of their videos charted on the same chart, so I'd say "U.S. chart peak" should be changed to Billboard Top Music Videos Charts or something like that. Not done because then that column becomes too wide. Also, since there isn't an article for "Billboard Top Music Videos Charts" nor is there an appropriate section for it in the Billboard charts article, why is the heading change required?
  • MVDbase is not a reliable source. Most discogs don't source music video directors anyways, so you could just take that out. Done
  • Some external links would be nice. Done
And that's about it. Drewcifer (talk) 05:46, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved stuff from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments yeah, looking good, a few comments:

  • Don't like red linked extended play in the lead - is this ever likely to be an article? If so, perhaps make a stub for it? Also, I'd place (EP) after the "extended play" so when you use the abbreviation it's clear what it means (to the non-expert). Done
  • "released it's debut" - rogue apostrophe I think? Done
  • "quadraple" - probably quadruple! Done
  • Move [3][4] to after the comma. Done
  • "After six years of hiatus, Alice in Chains officially broke up.[8] In 2005, the band reunited with" - I'd merge these - the first sentence is a little too short and makes the prose read choppy. Done but a little differently.
  • "release it's first" - apostrophe again? Done
  • I'd like a space between 2xPlatinum so 2 x Platinum or 2x Platinum. Done
  • Is CS abbreviation for cassette? Not clear. Done changed all to cassette
  • Is there a reason U.S. has full stops and UK and NZ don't? Just a question really.
I think that's standard actually, I've seen it being said on quite a few peer reviews/FACs etc. Maybe its because "US" could be ambiguous as a capitalised "us". indopug (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's it from me. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support 'Nother gem from the incredibly prolific Burningclean. I was bored so I did a CE and also took care of all of the above concerns :) indopug (talk) 12:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support my concerns all addressed, this is featured quality. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support My comments have been taken into account. Definitely a great list. Drewcifer (talk) 16:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Are there no sources for the music video info? If so, where did the info come from?
    • Wow, Australia has good taste in music ;)
  • dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 05:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A reviewer above stated that mvdbase is unreliable and that the director doesn't need citing. I can't seem to find any Aussie chart numbers in the link you have posted. indopug (talk) 11:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
MVDbase: OK. Aussie: Yeah, it was a payout at Alice in Chains; not the best band in the world :P Support dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 07:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note There are four supports and zero objections. Wow I missed alot in the day I was gone! Thanks to everyone who participated! Also, indopug has a good point: directors are kind of self cited. In my previous FLC (Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Godsmack discography), it was stated that directors don't need a citation, and I think it was mentioned that Mvdbase was unreliable anyway. I only added it incase somebody wanted it included. It would be easier taking it out than it would be to add it. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 21:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Great looking article - the only minor wording things I see are these 2 sentences:
Alice in Chains had not toured since the release of Dirt, causing the band to go on a hiatus.
On April 20, 2002, Staley was found dead in his condominium after overdosing on heroin and cocaine, causing Alice in Chains to break up.[8]

Those endings just don't sit quite right with me(maybe its only me) They could possibly be rearranged a little to incorporate the "causing..." sections into the sentence more, like "AIC went on hiatus, as a result of ___" or "overdosing on heroin and cocaine, which resulted in ___" or somthing like that. Anyway thats probably just nitpicking, great article! Skeletor2112 (talk) 06:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Damn I just remembered a notable exclusion; what about the appearance of "Would?" on the Singles soundtrack? That was a pivotal release for the band. indopug (talk) 07:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't released as a single for the movie, it only appeared in it. Perhaps I could make a notation mark that links to that fact. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 02:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are you sure it doesn't warrant a miscellaneous section; are you certain there aren't any other soundtracks, compilation contributions? indopug (talk) 10:18, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I concur. The band contributed two songs to the Last Action Hero soundtrack, from what I recall. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very true, I missed that. Should it just be under "Soundtrack contributions" or something else? —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 21:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do what Nirvana discography does with miscellaneous tracks. Also, try and look for non-US/Uk chart placings for a wider worldview. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I made the section. "Would?" appears at 33 on the Dutch charts, and that is the only other chart any of their songs appear on. Should I add a Dutch section or let it go? —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 03:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wouldn't hurt to add it. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 04:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My last comment: make sure you have all the miscellaneous tracks listed. I think Music Bank has a discography in the booklet; I'll check later tonight. Once we're sure we've got everything I'll support. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean you want demos and stuff? There is a lot on Music Bank, I have it if I need it. It comprised of album tracks, demos, and the songs that appeared on movie soundtracks. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 01:49, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I mean tracks that don't appear on the band's releases. So not just soundtracks, but any sort of compilations (see Nirvana discography) WesleyDodds (talk) 01:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Them Bones" appeared on the soundtrack to a documentary, so I added that. Other than that there are no other miscellaneous tracks. Ten days have passed with four supports and zero opposes. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 23:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was looking at the band's entry on Discogs.com last night (I think it was) and there were actually some single b-sides listed. They were mainly tracks already available on albums, but a few were live tracks and there was at least one remix (of "Again"). Read up on and add that stuff. WesleyDodds (talk) 02:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. So, there were two remixes of "Again" that later appeared on Music Bank and I added them, and eight live tracks. The rest were previous album cuts, so they don't need to be added. Just let me know if there is anything else. FLCs usually close after ten days, and this one is eleven days, and has enough supports. Thanks, —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 03:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Add all B-sides; just indicate where the album tracks come from. Also, should "tattoo of pain" be captialized? Forget the number of supports and days the nom has been up; when the article's ready it's ready, and it's almost there. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True, add all B-sides for completeness sake. Also, I'm not sure if the two versions of "heaven beside you" and "again" should be listed separately; maybe include a "Version" column for CD1 and CD2? For those live tracks, is there info as to which concert it was from? In the Comments column of the Miscellaneous table, there is no need to repeat the name of the song. "Soundtrack" should not be italicised. indopug (talk) 07:49, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All done. Besides, adding them isn't goig to hurt anything. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 23:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The reason I asked you to add that version column was so that an A-side entry doesn't repeat; "Again", "Heaven" and "Down" should only have one entry each in the table. Combine adjacent comments entries with the exact same info ("Later appears on Music Bank"). indopug (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 20:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Everything looks great now. The only thing I have an issue with now is the sentence "Alice in Chains had not toured since the release of Dirt, causing the band to go on a hiatus." It sounds very awkward. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:54, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for all of the refining. I fixed the sentence too. That was a really awkward one. —Burningclean [Speak the truth!] 15:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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