Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Ajay Devgan filmography/archive1

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Ajay Devgan filmography

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• Featured list candidates/Ajay Devgan filmography/archive1

Nominator(s): D'SuperHero (talk) 12:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Filmography of actor Ajay Devgan. Here is the complete list of films done in his career. with enough sources and context. D'SuperHero (talk) 12:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

This is the second time you have nominated an article, with just few edits here and there. I believe the major contributor @Skr15081997: should be aware of this FLC. I also feel the lead needs some work. There is just one review supporting the "..appreciated by the critics" claim, and too many instances were the sentence starts with Devgan. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:22, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Comment : Yashthepunisher Not here and there. Lead was really short and had inadequate information, so have been expanded though. Added just few refs and footnotes. In addition, TV appearances had been added because only 3 shows were there. D'SuperHero (talk) 05:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

I agree, but Skr was the one who addded sources in the table. You can check the article's history. The guideline says "Ones who are not significant contributors to the list should consult regular editors of the list before nomination." Your contributions are right, but we can't just ignore the one who sourced the table and was planning to take this to FL for a long time. Maybe you can add him as a co-nominator or such. Yashthepunisher (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

• @SchroCat and PresN: I think it's time to consider this nomination for a procedural close. As the above user has highlighted, nominator is not a main contributor to this FLC. Has not discussed with the main contributor Skr. Their main edit to this article was an expansion of the lead which has been reverted as copyvio in this edit leaving just three sentences as the lead. [[2]]. Cowlibob (talk) 21:03, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

• Well, for starters, I think that this string of 33 edits is enough to count as a main contributor; I'm not going to get in the business of edit counting to determine who's number 1, preferring to reserve that issue for pure driveby nominations and nominations in bad faith where the list has someone who's been working on it continuously (someone did that to me a couple times, it's not fun). That said...
• I don't know if the contributions were a copyvio, though as D'SuperHero has not complained I assume that they are. I do know they were simply a prose conversion of the list, so that's no good. Which means at present the list has no real lead, and before the reversion it did not have an acceptable lead. @D'SuperHero: I'm not going to procedural close this nom, but it currently has some pretty substantive issues that you seem to have ignored for nearly 3 weeks after opening this nomination. If I don't see any work on it, I'm going to have to assume this nomination was abandoned and close it. --PresN 01:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

PresN No! the contribs weren't a copyvio at all. On another tone, a bit expansion was framed as CopyVio by another user. Foremost edits have been done and no other claims to done to term it as a CopyVio. SuperHero ● 👊 ● ★ 13:43, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Oppose

• All of the sentences I see start with "Devgan then starred in", "In the same year, Devgan", "In xxx year, Devgan portrayed" or "His release of the year xxx were". The prose looks like presenting a list of bulleted-points in a passage form. IMO, it is very very very dull, partially incorrect (grammatically) and repetitive.
• "In 1992, Devgan then starred in Martial arts based film Jigar opposite" – there is no need of "then" and why is "M" of martial arts is capitalized? Also, the Jigar needs to be in italics since it's a film.
• "Devgan portrayed the role of a kickboxer" – where?
• "The same year Devgn starred in successful films Suhaag (1994), Dilwale" – why is the year of the Suhaag given and not Dilwale's? Also, in what terms were the films successful, and, according to the source, Suhaag was "above average" at the box office and that does not exactly mean successful.
• "Devgan's other releases in late 1990s including Itihaas, Ishq, Pyaar To Hona Hi Tha performed average at the box-office" – you need definite article before "late 1990s" and "performed average" is not grammatically correct.
• Can't you just combine the last two sentences of the first para?
• "In 2003, Devgan starred in Ram Gopal Verma's horror film Bhoot, opposite Urmila Matondkar" – Matondkar linked twice in the lead.
• "Devgan played Othello in critically acclaimed film Omkara (2006)" – for "critically acclaimed", you need a source which explicitly states that it was "critically acclaimed".
• "In 2007, Devgan starred in two films, director Anubhav Sinha-directed Cash and Ram Gopal Varma Ki Aag" – what does "director Anubhav Sinha-directed" mean? Also, were both films directed by Sinha?
• "Devgan starred in Rohit Shetty's comedy Golmaal Returns, a sequel to the 2006 film Golmaal: Fun Unlimited" – it's the third time where you are wikilinking Shetty and second time for Golmaal. Also, here you refer to the 2006 film as "Golmaal: Fun Unlimited" but back in the third last line of the second para it's titled "Golmaal".
• "Devgan produced his third film, All the Best, directed by Rohit Shetty" – what is it with mentioning Rohit Shetty all the time?
• "Devgn then starred in numerous films in 2010s" – you need "the" before the decade.
• "Child Artist, as Master Chotu" – isn't "Master Chotu" supposed to be under "Role"? And why is "A" of "Artist" in uppercase letter?

I haven't looked at the references and table, and it was just for the prose part, which is not concise and needs a fair amount of work. -- Frankie _talk 18:15, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Comment: FrB.TG fixed some of the issues including "added films in italics", "cited some of the details", "removed redundant wikilinkings", "removed Child Artist junk" and etc. Plus above and foremost work is on to edit and shape the article fine. SuperHero ● 👊 ● ★ 08:00, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

And, the issues which had been rectified as per now has been striked up. SuperHero ● 👊 ● ★ 11:08, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. – SchroCat (talk) 16:01, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

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