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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 22:02:49 26 May 2019 (UTC) [1].

AFL Rising Star edit

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Nominator(s): Allied45 (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is my fifth instalment in a campaign to increase the number of Australian Football League FLs (there have been four successful promotions since August 2018). The AFL Rising Star is a prestigious annual award presented to a standout young player in the league. Allied45 (talk) 11:18, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments
    • "if a player is suspended during the season, they may be nominated" => "he may be nominated"
    • "as long as they still satisfy" => "as long as he still satisfies"
    • Why are the refs in a smaller font?
  • Think that's all I've got......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:11, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks ChrisTheDude (as always!); these have now been fixed. Allied45 (talk) 08:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:59, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support from Lirim.Z
  • The scope in the table should always be the fist column. I would swap the year and recipent columns and add scope=row to the recipent
  • From when is the logo used in the infobox?

--Lirim | Talk 15:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Lirim.Z, I have applied your suggestions. Allied45 (talk) 23:24, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Our discerning readers should be able to tell that the picture in the infobox is the current logo without the aid of a caption.
  • There seems to be too much black background around the logo. A crop might be needed.
  • MOS:SMALLFONT specifies that <small> tags shouldn't be used in infoboxes.
  • I'm not sure it's very useful to include the "country" parameter in the infobox. It's an Australian rules football award presented by the Australian Football League... it isn't going to be in New Zealand.
  • most any club has achieved in a single season 'single' is unnecessary.
  • five votes, four votes, three votes, two votes and one vote ... players they regard as the best to fifth-best during the season respectively. 'Respectively' is unnecessary, it is quite obvious the best player will poll the most votes.
  • These votes are tallied, and the highest number of combined votes wins the medal. reword to 'the player with the highest total of votes wins the medal'. Again, it is quite obvious the votes will be tallied, and the medal is awarded to the player, not the number of votes.
  • the maximum number of votes a player can possibly achieve is not consistent replace 'possibly achieve' with something like 'amass' or 'poll'. 'Possibly' is redundant to 'maximum' and 'achieve' is not quite the most precise verb to use.
  • have achieved the maximum votes similarly, 'amassed' or 'polled'.
  • satisfies the age and games played qualification rules reword to 'age and experience criteria' or similar
  • As a result, there have been 'as a result' is unnecessary
  • There are two Sydney players featured. Instead of Mills, what about using e.g. McGrath?
  • Buckley was the inaugural AFL Rising Star winner but Riewoldt was the 2002 AFL Rising Star 'winner' is probably unnecessary, but at least ensure you're consistent.
  • polled the maximum votes possible when he won the 2010 AFL Rising Star maybe reword to 'maximum votes possible in the 2010 AFL Rising Star'? A bit more concise.
  • Do clubs publish their own websites? I was under the impression it was Telstra Media, same as AFL.com.au.

Excellent work as always Allied45. – Teratix ₵ 09:15, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Teratix, this is all done. I am not sure if my efforts at cropping the logo were successful though (it appears different in my browser...) — Allied45 (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Very odd. I played around with it a bit but I'm still getting that thick black border. Ah well, it's not the worst thing in the world. Final comments: either convert the external link to use the official website template or remove it entirely since it's already linked in the infobox. Also, WP:IMAGESIZE discourages specifying image width in px except when there is a good reason, so consider converting the infobox's image_size parameter to image_upright. – Teratix ₵ 12:48, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Done and done, thanks Teratix :) — Allied45 (talk) 07:46, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support. – Teratix ₵ 11:56, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 06:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Since 2019 is linked in the infobox, I'd expect to see it in the table, even if just as a TBC.
  • "The award was sponsored by Norwich Union from" maybe a digression, but WHY? Norwich, in Norfolk, in the UK, sponsoring this AFL event??
  • Can we use club's full names for the benefit of those who haven't heard of any of them, e.g. Sydney -> Sydney Swans?
  • "There have been 11 players" -> "Eleven players have been..."

Otherwise looks good. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:04, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks The Rambling Man, I have implemented these suggestions. I have distinguished that it was sponsored by Norwich Union Australia, as the company had an Australian operation at the time. I have applied the full club names in the lead, however I left the links in the tables as they were as they use the commonly-used club templates (such as Template:AFL Syd). This seems to be the accepted way to display the club names in tables as per the WikiProject Australian rules football style guide. — Allied45 (talk) 06:19, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support my concerns addressed. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:48, 12 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – looks good to me. Great job on this! Can't wait to see more AFL lists in the future! – zmbro (talk) 20:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source review – All of the references are to reliable sources and are well-formatted, and the link-checker tool reveals no problems. Spot-checks of refs 8, 24, and 27 showed no verifiability concerns. I'd say this source review has been passed with flying colors (or perhaps colours). Giants2008 (Talk) 21:22, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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