Wikipedia

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/2012 Summer Olympics medal table/archive1

< Wikipedia:Featured list candidates
The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 24 April 2021 (UTC) [1].[reply]

2012 Summer Olympics medal table edit

2012 Summer Olympics medal table (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Toolbox
Nominator(s): Birdienest81 (talk) 09:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating the 2012 London Summer Olympics medal table for featured list promotion because I've feel that this list meets the criteria for inclusion. These Olympic games are personally my second favorite edition behind the 1984 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. This is my first non-film related list I am attempting to submit for featured list status and I based the format on other Olympic medal tables that became FL. Please feel free to make comments or make adjustments yourself. Birdienest81 (talk) 09:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
  • Image alt texts don't need to open with "Photo of..."
  • Fixed: Removed instances of "Photo of..."
  • "At least 86 nations..." → "86 nations..." (since we know the exact number)
  • "Fixed: Removed "At least..."
  • "In prior Olympics, however, Montenegrin athletes have won medals as nationals of Serbia and Montenegro and of Yugoslavia." – source needed
  • Fixed: Added citation using article from official 2020 Summer Olympics website stating The Balkan nation had previously competed under Yugoslavia, the Independent Olympians and Serbia Montenegro from 1920 to 2004. Also added footnote about Montenegrin athletes competing under the Independent Olympians name.
  • "...independent NOC, however..." → "...independent NOC; however..."
  • "Fixed: Changed comma to semicolon.
  • "Serbian athletes have previously won gold medals as nationals of Serbia and Montenegro and of Yugoslavia." – source needed (source 10 doesn't state this)
  • Fixed: Added article backing up fact. It is located at the bottom of the article under 7PM. It reads: "The former Yugoslavia won three gold medals..." Dropped the "Serbia and Montenegro" part since this fact is only referring to Serbia in the context of wining gold medals, and Serbia and Montenegro won zero gold medals in 2004 (the only time the nation competed under that name).
  • I would include the comments about Maryam Yusuf Jamal in footnote b instead of breaking up the list of nations with parentheses.
  • Fixed: Moved Jamal comment into the footnote.
  • NOC needs to be spelled out in the lead or replaced with a different word (i.e. nation).
  • "Fixed: Changed NOC to nation in the lead.
  • When used in table headers, use Template:Abbr to state that NOC means National Olympic Committee.
  • "Fixed: Used template to denote acrony.
  • What is your source for the medal table? You say it's based on information from the IOC, but you don't link that information.
  • Fixed: Added source from Olympedia which is a spinoff of Sports Reference. Previously the authors of Olympedia published Olympics stats on Sports Reference, but they spun off their own website in May 2020. This website explains it all here.
  • Don't use smaller text for the tables in "Changes in medal standings" for accessibility reasons.
  • "Fixed: Removed font style template to restore text to regular size.
  • Period needed before sources 35, 61, and 63
  • "Fixed: Added periods before the sources.
  • The table "List of possible changes in medal standings" feels like a violation of WP:CRYSTAL, since there is little sourcing and it is unclear if/how the medals will be reallocated in those events.
  • Fixed: Removed table accordingly.
  • I'd suggest archiving sources where possible using IABot.
  • Fixed: Ran the IABot and it archived sources wherever possible.

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 22:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @RunningTiger123: I addressed your comments and made the necessary adjustments.
--Birdienest81 (talk) 20:31, 28 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Strong work all around. Hopefully we'll be able to make a new list for the Tokyo Olympics soon... RunningTiger123 (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:24, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
  • Pedantically, the silver-coloured countries on the map are not countries that won at least one silver medal. They are countries that won at least one silver medal and no golds.
  • Fixed: Changed sentence to indicate that silver-coloured nations won at least one silver without any gold medals.
  • Need a comma after United Kingdom in the first para
  • "Fixed: Added a comma after "United Kingdom".
  • A sentence shouldn't start with a number written as digits, so is it possible to reword the first sentence of para 2?
  • Fixed: Added the word "overall" to the beginning of the sentence.
  • "Previously, Montenegrin athletes have competed" => "Previously, Montenegrin athletes had competed"
  • "Fixed: Changed "have" to "had."
  • Same for Serbia
  • "Fixed: Changed "have" to "had."
  • Considering that the "List of official changes by country" table takes up well over 50% of the article, it should absolutely be covered in the lead
  • "Fixed: Added two sentences regarding doping and the medal changes resulting from it.
  • All these image captions need sources for content not covered anywhere else in the article: China table tennis (that they defended the title), Pendleton (that it was the first ever Keirin event), Dutch hockey team (that they retained their title), US soccer (that it was their third straight title)
  • Fixed: Added sources from ESPN regarding factoids not covered in the body of the article.
  • "Kolodko would be later stripped her silver for doping" => "Kolodko would be later stripped of her silver for doping"
  • Fixed: Added "of" in between "stripped" and "her".
  • "confirmed that Russian discus thrower Darya Pishchalnikova had been banned for 10 years, and they stripped of her silver medal" => "confirmed that Russian discus thrower Darya Pishchalnikova had been banned for 10 years, and stripped of her silver medal"
  • Fixed: Changed sentence that now reads "On 1 May 2013, the IOC banned Russian discus thrower Darya Pishchalnikova from competition for ten years, and stripped of her silver medal in the women's discus throw after testing positive for oxandrolone (an anabolic steroid).
  • That still isn't grammatically correct. If the first clause is "On 1 May 2013, the IOC banned Russian discus thrower Darya Pishchalnikova from competition for ten years," then the second should be "and stripped her of her silver medal....." -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:20, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done: Added a "her" between "stripped" and "of."
  • "imposed a one-year suspension on a 4 × 100 m relay team member Tyson Gay" => "imposed a one-year suspension on 4 × 100 m relay team member Tyson Gay"
  • Fixed: Removed unneeded "a" between "on" and "4".
  • Note against women's 20km walk doesn't span all the rows it should
  • Fixed: Changed rowspan to 3.
  • "The IOC had requested Iinternational Wrestling Federation" - need "the" after requested, also the word International is spelt incorrectly
  • Fixed: Added "the" after "requested" and corrected the word "International."
  • "after she tested positive of dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (turinabol)" => "after she tested positive for dehydrochlormethyltestosterone (turinabol)"
  • Fixed: Changed "of" to "for"
  • "Austra Skujytė was latered awarded" - later, not latered
  • Fixed: Changed "latered" to "later".
  • "the Russian 4 × 400 metres relay women's team was disqualified due doping of Antonina Krivoshapka" => "the Russian 4 × 400 metres relay women's team was disqualified due to doping by Antonina Krivoshapka"
  • Fixed: Added "to" in between "due" and "doping".
  • "On 9 November 2015, WADA Independent report" => "On 9 November 2015, a WADA independent report"
  • Fixed: Added a missing "a" between "2015" and "WADA."
  • "Thus, Ekaterina Poistogova retained her Olympic 2012 medal at women's 800 metres athletic event" => "Thus, Ekaterina Poistogova retained her Olympic 2012 medal in the women's 800 metres athletic event"
  • Fixed: chaned "at" to read "in the."
  • "Gamze Bulut was banned for doping and lost its Olympic silver medal" - seems a bit harsh to call her "it" :-)
  • Fixed: Changed "it" to "she".
  • "on 17 August 2015, the Court of Arbitration for Sport Turkish athlete Aslı Çakır Alptekin lost the Olympic title and serve an eight-year ban for blood doping" - quite a few words missing here I think......?
  • Fixed: Sentence now reads: "Previously, on 17 August 2015, the Court of Arbitration for Sport stripped Turkish athlete Aslı Çakır Alptekin of her medal and imposed an eight-year ban on her for blood doping."
  • "Nevertheless, the IOC decided award Tomashova and Aregawi with the silver and bronze medals" => "Nevertheless, the IOC decided to award Tomashova and Aregawi the silver and bronze medals"
  • Fixed: Added the preposition "to" in between "decided" and "award."
  • "Medals in these events have not been redistributed yet." - give a specific date at which this statement is true (this statement appears twice)
  • Fixed: Removed the phrase because there are no credible sources to pinpoint the exact date which made the statement true without intruding into Wikipedia:SYNTH territory.

@ChrisTheDude: I've addressed all the comments, and I have made the adjustments accordingly.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 11:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Medalists in the archery men's team event. doesn't need a full stop.
  • Add a comma after On 21 November 2016 and the two following.

Solid work. Assuming you touch on the above, I support this nomination. ~ HAL333 21:54, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • @HAL333: Done: I think I did what you've suggested in the comments. Although I'm not sure what you mean by "and the two following"?
--Birdienest81 (talk) 06:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Commas are also needed after On 25 November 2016 and On 29 November 2016. ~ HAL333 14:26, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done: I added commas to the dates you listed.
—Birdienest81 (talk) 11:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

  • @SNUGGUMS: Fixed--I changed two of the images where the link gives a 404 error into ones that have working links. As for the medals map, I'm asking the WP:FLC administrators if they know offhand about the usage rights or if they know someone else who is well versed with such issue.
  • I'm confused what the suspected issue is with 2012 Summer Olympics medal map.png? I'm not seeing anything that would change it from a free-use image. The base world map is a CC-BY-SA map used for tens of thousands of files across wikipedia, and it's been colored in by a few editors, retaining the CC-BY-SA license for all revisions. There's nothing wrong with editing "another user's upload" for CC-BY-SA images, that's why we retain all of the old revisions with the editor's name (BY) and under the same license (SA). --PresN 13:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, the map is fine and the image review passes. I just didn't know whether recoloring a prior edition affected copyright status. Additionally, I now support the nomination. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 15:22, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Source review – Pass edit

Doing now. Aza24 (talk) 19:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting
  • Do we need "Retrieved 24 February 2021" in the external links? Seems weird to only have it for one of them
  • Fixed: Removed date in External Links section since it only referring to the website as a whole.
  • ref 7 missing author
  • Fixed: Added Ben Snider-McGrath as author.
  • ref 38 is using a different template than the other refs I believe (for some reason the date isn't after the author)
  • Fixed: Moved date from "issue" paramter to "date" parameter in template.
  • there's a lot of inconsistency with news sites, Reuters is italicized once, but not the other time—this is just one example, it should be standardized throughout
  • "Fixed: Moved news organizations that are not italicized (i.e.: Associated Press, Reuters, and Yahoo Sports) from work parameter to agency parameter in order to de-italicize the title.
  • can you translate the date on ref 58?
  • Fixed: Translated "čer" into June.
  • ref 67 seems to be missing a publisher or some equivalent parameter, ref 71 and 73 as well
  • Fixed: Added Court of Arbitration for Sport as publisher of material.
Reliability
  • no issues here
Verifiability
  • checked a couple—looks good. Aza24 (talk) 20:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Aza24: I've fixed the issues based on your feedback. Thank you
--Birdienest81 (talk) 23:02, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 23:40, 22 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. --PresN 22:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through.
The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.
Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Featured_list_candidates/2012_Summer_Olympics_medal_table/archive1&oldid=1019553961"