Wikipedia:Featured article review/Stanisław Koniecpolski/archive1
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The article was removed by YellowAssessmentMonkey 00:47, 1 September 2009 [1].
Stanisław Koniecpolski edit
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- Notified WikiProject Poland, WikiProject Military History, WikiProject Biography and Piotrus.
This article currently fails FA criterion 1c, since there entire paragraphs/sections without citations. In addition, the article almost entirely relies on one source. I'm not sure if other sources are available, but I would appreciate it if some more attention could be paid towards identifying potential sources that might detail notable information not found in Podhorodecki (1978). Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 14:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't have the books here, but on the bright side, anybody with access to Podhorecki biography of him should be able to reference this article easily. This book, which I used when writing the article,is as far as I know is the major work dedicated to him, and hence, practically the obligatory source for the article (any other works are either less comprehensive or very specialized one one aspect/era of his life). On the down side, without access to this book one will not be able to finish referencing this article. Few months ago I started adding inline citations, but didn't finish (as can be cleary seen from refs :D). I'll have access to my copy in Poland again in December. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 19:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I've started adding refs from what I can get from online sources but unfortunately I don't have access to Podhorodecki. I think the more general stuff can be reffed with online sources but some of the details will need the more specific book. I think most of the reffing can be done in the next few weeks - how much time do we have here?radek (talk) 20:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
FARC commentary edit
- Suggested FA criteria concern are citations, alt text. Also note the recent change to WP:WIAFA (1c) requiring "high-quality" sources. FAQ? YellowMonkey (cricket photo poll!) paid editing=POV 02:39, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Could we get an update here? I've seen some progress since the FAR started, but the page has been devoid of activity for the past two weeks. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 03:19, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist. The prose in this article is abysmal, it's riddled with weasel words and imprecise language, and missing citations abound. JKBrooks85 (talk) 07:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hold on. It's summer - activity is bound to be sporadic. A good bit of citing has already been done but then I had to take ten days off for real life reasons. I can now resume work on this.radek (talk) 10:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Good to hear! I'll keep an eye on it and remove the delist in a few days as progress continues. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:44, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks!radek (talk) 23:53, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Also it would be helpful if someone could fact tag [citation needed] all the text that needs to be referenced. In several cases multiple sentences can be sourced to the same ref but I'm not sure if I need to inline after every comma (if one's familiar with the person one might miss a need for a ref). This would make the work easier and direct my efforts to where they need to go.radek (talk) 23:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Added. Citations also are needed for that footnote about the year of his birth, since none were included in the body of the article there. JKBrooks85 (talk) 10:56, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Hold on. It's summer - activity is bound to be sporadic. A good bit of citing has already been done but then I had to take ten days off for real life reasons. I can now resume work on this.radek (talk) 10:45, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- To try to help out a bit, I added a toolbox to the upper right corner of this review page. For example, you can visit its "alt text" tool to find out the alt text problems I mentioned above. Eubulides (talk) 00:07, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist The article is riddled with citation tags and the alt text has not been added. There are also prose concerns (random examples):
- Stanisław Koniecpolski lived a life that involved almost constant warfare, and during his military career he won many victories.
- With inferior forces fought the Swedish forces of Gustavus Adolphus to a stalemate in Prussia.
- In 1615 and 1616, Koniecpolski gained experience in Ukraine fighting against Tatar hordes, but he failed to break or capture any sizable enemy units.
- Soon afterward, Koniecpolski was defeated by the Tatars near Oryn, where he made a mistake of charging in front of his army against overwhelming odds and consequently barely made it out of the battle alive.
- They returned to Poland in spring 1623 during the aftermath of the Ottoman defeat at Khotyn and the stabilization of Polish-Ottoman relations that was helped by the diplomatic mission of Krzysztof Zbaraski which bought the freedom of captives for 30,000 talars.
- He also repelled a counterattack by Swedish raitars, who were pushed in the direction of Pułkowice, where another counterattack was led by Gustavus Adolphus with 2,000 raitars. This counterattack was also stopped, and the Swedish forces were saved by the last reserve units led by field marshal Herman Wrangel, who managed to stop the Polish attack.
—mattisse (Talk) 19:34, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- What's the stauts on this? Major improvements have not been made for 10 days. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- No one has edited the article since you posted above on 21 August. Dabomb87. —mattisse (Talk) 23:30, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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