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in early August i pointed out some major issues with this article, and while someone did do a small copyedit, the issues remain. below i've just copied my talk page comment, as i believe the points are still valid.
this article has been an FA since 2007 and not reviewed since. it has several issues requiring an FAR if not resolved:
- this is the only FA with a "multiple issues" template, both issues being over a year old
- unencyclopedic tone, e.g. "
The Duchess was always ready to give her advice, express her opinions, antagonize with outspoken censure, and insist on having her say on every possible occasion.[39] However, she had a charm and vivaciousness admired by many, and she could easily delight those she met with her wit.[39]
", "The Duchess died, in the words of Tobias Smollett, "immensely rich and very little regretted, either by her own family or the world in general",[83] but her efforts to continue the Marlborough legacy cannot be ignored.
" - unsourced content, including several whole paragraphs and most of the "children" section
- in agreement with the "written like a story" tag, the sections are titled weirdly, as if book chapters
in general, this is pretty far from FA-quality and wouldn't even meet the GA criteria if reviewed today; it may even need a full rewrite. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 13:21, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Inappropriate formatting (the dropdown list in the first paragraph), story-like tone, two maintenance tags, citation neededs out the ass... Might I suggest invoking the speedy delist per the precedent? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 04:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
- no objections from me ... sawyer * he/they * talk 21:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: @Casliber: @DrKay: what say you? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:19, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- no objections from me ... sawyer * he/they * talk 21:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's certainly in need of improvement, but I don't think to the extent to warrant speedy - despite the tagging, more of it is sourced than isn't, and the tone is theoretically fixable within the scope of an FAR if anyone is so inclined. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
- i'll defer to you guys; i've got a lot of work to do IRL so i don't have the bandwidth to really sit down and overhaul this article. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 00:03, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's certainly in need of improvement, but I don't think to the extent to warrant speedy - despite the tagging, more of it is sourced than isn't, and the tone is theoretically fixable within the scope of an FAR if anyone is so inclined. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC)