Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Nina Girado/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted by Laser brain 06:08, 29 January 2010 [1].

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Nina Girado

Nominator(s): Kristelzorina (talk) 13:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Featured article candidates/Nina Girado/archive1

I am nominating this for featured article because it contains useful, educational, sourced and informative contents. It provides the readers with the complete list of albums, singles, awards, movies, shows, etc. done by the artist, Nina. Furthermore, the article is well-written, without the use of peacock words and not laid out in a fansite manner. Kristelzorina (talk) 13:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Please fix the punctuation. Periods and commas go before any footnote, not after. many instances. • Ling.Nut 13:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. • Ling.Nut 14:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

You're quick, thanks so much. Kristelzorina (talk) 14:13, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I will. Thanks for reminding. Kristelzorina (talk) 13:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

You're probably gonna have problems with the reliability of your sources. Forex, you use Wikipedia as a source at least once. Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Other sources (like blogs) may also be unreliable. • Ling.Nut 14:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to look for more reliable sources. Although, as far as I have read on sites and watched on TV, the contents of the page are facts, so please don't delete them. Kristelzorina (talk) 14:27, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

(undent) It's a little unlikely that anyone will delete anything. It's much more likely that poor sourcing will prevent the article from getting FA. You should find someone who is experienced in sourcing music FAs to help you. I don't know who that would be, though... • Ling.Nut 14:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to find more sources for it. Anyway, thanks for checking the article out. It is really improving. Kristelzorina (talk) 14:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Try using {{find}}; post it on the talk page and it will create several searches that you can check out, ranging from newspaper articles to scholarly journals. I've find it to be really quite useful in the past. At the very least it should help you to find some additional references that you can use to replace the blogs and Wikipedia refs. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 18:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments by MelicansMatkin

• The sound samples both need more than the generic rationale that is automatically applied. How exactly do these two sound samples enhance the readers comprehension? How do they illustrate the information in the article? The captions are all very well, but you need specific points on the file pages which clearly outline exactly what purpose they serve.
• The section "Notable Concerts"... what exactly makes them notable? Cites needed for that whole section.
• "Filmography" also needs cites; and I wouldn't mind seeing some prose worked into there as well.
• Both images need alt text for the visually impaired; see WP:ALT for a guide on how to do that.
• As a side note to that, I'm not convinced by the rationale for the infobox image. It looks like it's a screenshot/crop of a video/photo judging by the description provided (which I admit is a bit unclear), in which case it is not the uploaders own work and they cannot claim to be the copyright holder. The image either needs to be replaced or undergo a serious rationale improvement (and even then, I believe that non-free images cannot be used in the infobox).
• There are three disambiguation links in the article; these need to be fixed.
• Other comments... Since the "Awards" section has no content other than a link, I'd recommend moving that down to "See also". MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 18:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

• Comment. Please add alt text to images; see WP:ALT. Eubulides (talk) 19:28, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - Many of the sources are far from reliable: facebook, a forum on ninasoulsiren.com, a blog (grabeh.com) and so on. Does not meet criteria 1c - the sources are not high quality or reliable in many cases - Peripitus (Talk)
• I'm going to suggest to the nominator that this be withdrawn. The issues above regarding sourcing and file rationales notwithstanding, there are issues with the prose that bother me as well; "Seeing the potential, Filbert trained her massively, and like the traditional way, she was submerged into a drum of water, while belting out her high notes" being one of the more immediate ones. This article needs a thorough copyedit and should probably go through at least a Peer Review first. Sorry, but I just don't think that this is ready for FAC yet. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 22:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes, now I can see it's not yet ready to be FA... About the sound samples, I think the purposes are written there on the audio files' page. About the infobox image, it was shot from a concert which was never aired on TV and never released on home video, so it's not a screenshot. The quality of the image was just reduced, because it's a non-free. About the section "Awards", I think that's not much of a problem. I will just try to search for more sources. It's really hard to find references for Filipino articles, there are very few reliable sites. But thanks for the comments, they really helped me in improving this article. Kristelzorina (talk) 03:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

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