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The article was promoted by Ian Rose via FACBot (talk) 29 April 2022 [1].

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Interstate 90

Nominator(s): SounderBruce 03:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

The longest freeway in the United States, and perhaps the world. Stretching from Seattle to Boston, one can drive on I-90 for over 3,000 miles from the Pacific to the Atlantic without having to stop for a traffic signal, only the occasional tollbooth. This article was completely rewritten and improved to GA status in December and has undergone some copyediting since, and I feel it's about ready for FA status. Note that it's a summary article and is meant to be supplemented by the "Interstate 90 in X" state articles. SounderBruce 03:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

• Image review—pass no licensing issues found. (t · c) buidhe 03:18, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
• "Major intersections" is unsourced. I'm not sure if it duplicates the "Route description" section, if so, what value does it have to show the same info multiple times? (t · c) buidhe 03:18, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
  • It is generally repeating information from the Route description, but I've added the state map citations to cover the rest. The map citations are still slightly broken due to the updates to CS1 templates that are still being resolved. SounderBruce 04:05, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

• I hope to review this at some point but a drive-by comment: According to 2011 data Is there anything newer? --Rschen7754 18:04, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
  • I haven't seen a newer public dataset from the FHWA that is presented in a consistent and citable format. I did look at citing each individual state's AADT documents or maps, but it might fall under OR. SounderBruce 21:27, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Support by Speatle

• This is my first FAC review, so sorry if some of my comments aren’t helpful.

• The opening sentence for the lede feels a bit too long. Maybe split it into two like this: Interstate 90 is an east-west transcontinental freeway. At 3,021 miles (4,862 km), it is the longest Interstate highway in the United States.
  • Don't think it's too long in its current state.
• The freeway continues across Indiana and follows the shore of Lake Erie through Ohio and Pennsylvania to Buffalo. I-90 continues across New York by roughly following the historic Erie Canal and traverses Massachusetts… Continues is used twice in a row. I think that it’s far away enough to use some of the other verbs used in that paragraph like “traverses”.
  • Changed to "travels".
• I may be missing something here, but at the start of the fourth paragraph in the lede, “incorporated” is in the past tense. If the toll bits were removed later, it doesn’t really make that clear in the paragraph.
  • Fixed, the tolls still exist.
• I-90 emerges from the tunnel on a pair of floating bridges, among the longest of their kind in the world… “in the world” seems a bit unnecessary when you already have “longest of their kind”.
  • Removed.
• There were a couple redlinks in the Montana and Wyoming sections, which I removed.
  • Not necessary, as redlinks are permitted even in FAs. All of the targets are notable topics in their own right and would be able to support their own articles.
• I-90 serves a portion of northeastern Wyoming with a maximum speed limit of 80 mph (130 km/h). How is an 80 mph speed limit notable? Is it out of the ordinary in some way?
  • Removed.
• I-90/US 14 enters South Dakota near Spearfish and travels east through prairieland… Prairie land needs a space between the words.
  • Fixed.
• I-90 enters Wisconsin near La Crosse and bisects French Island before it reaches Onalaska while concurrent to US 53. Can you be more specific on when it become concurrent with US 53?
  • Fixed by giving the concurrency its own sentence.
• The highways turn south and enter Beloit, where it intersects I-43 and cross into Illinois. There’s a grammar problem of some sort here. It should be either “where they intersect I-43 and cross into Illinois” or “where it intersects I-43 and crosses into Illinois”.
  • Fixed.
• I-90 splits from the Dan Ryan Expressway in Englewood, where it turns southeast onto the tolled Chicago Skyway towards the Indiana state line… I-90 has been used way too many times in that paragraph, so maybe change it to something like “the interstate”.
  • "The interstate" would be too vague. I don't see an issue with this specific use of I-90 at the end of the paragraph.
• A component of the Big Dig megaproject in Boston that extended I-90 east by 3.5 miles (5.6 km) under Fort Point Channel and Boston Harbor to Logan International Airport, opened on January 18, 2003, at a cost of $6.5 billion. The first comma probably isn’t needed.
  • Removed.
• Other than those minor nitpicks, this article seems pretty good. Speatle (talk to me) please ping me when replying to something I said. 19:19, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
  • @Speatle: Well done on the first-time review. I have responded to all of your comments above. SounderBruce 05:09, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

    @SounderBruce, thanks. I hope to do more in the future. Speatle (talk to me) please ping me when replying to something I said. 12:39, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments by ChrisTheDude

• "The highway serves 13 states and has sixteen auxiliary routes" - both as numbers or both as words
  • Fixed.
• "approximately 760 miles (1,220 km) of I-90 uses turnpikes" - is there a wikilink for "turnpike"? Not really sure what it actually is......
  • Linked to toll road; it's a regional term for them in some U.S. states.
• "The parallel highways travel northeast from Lake Station to the Michigan City" - is it actually called the Michigan City?
  • Removed.
• "The 1.5-mile (2.4 km) elevated freeway on bypassed Wallace" - not sure the word "on" should be there
  • Removed, leftover from a previous copyedit.
• The "highlight duplicate links" tool is highlighting a lot of links in the history section which had already been linked in the route section
  • Cut away the ones I thought were unnecessary. There's quite a few links I think are helpful to repeat once (such as locations given extra focus in the history section) due to the length of the article.
• That's all I got - a very interesting read! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
  • @ChrisTheDude: I'm glad you enjoyed the read. I've fixed the issues you pointed out and will comb through again for overlinking. SounderBruce 07:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:31, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Mike Christie

• The map in the infobox only shows two of the Great Lakes.
  • This is a recurring problem with Wikimedia Maps and I'm not sure how it can be permanently fixed. The lakes do appear at closer zoom levels, though.

    That bug is reported as resolved -- has it been reported again? I have to see I would rather not support a FAC that has a broken map, even though I can see that in a sense it's not your problem. Can you not use a different map until this issue is fixed? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:05, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

• "the future tracks of Link light rail's Line 2": this could use an "as of" date, but since the line is presumably under construction already, perhaps we can say that? "...alongsid the future tracks of Link light rail's Line 2, under construction as of 2022"? That would simplify the phrasing of the "as of", and it shouldn't be hard to source.
  • Reworded to add opening date, which I think will be easier to update than an "as of" statement.
• "which carries westbound traffic and the light rail line": should this be "the future light rail line"? Or "will carry"?
  • Fixed.
• "From Chamberlain, I-90 continues east across the plains and several small towns near the city of Mitchell." Looks like a word missing -- should this be "and past several small towns"?
  • Fixed.
• "The freeway, now named the Kennedy Expressway, travels through northwestern Chicago with the Blue Line of the "L" rapid transit system in its median, where it makes several stops": needs rephrasing; as written it says the freeway makes several stops. Perhaps "The freeway, now named the Kennedy Expressway, travels through northwestern Chicago, where the Blue Line of the "L" rapid transit system runs along the freeways median and makes several stops".
  • Fixed.
• "...where it begins a concurrency with I-80. The parallel highways travel northeast...": are they parallel? I thought they were concurrent.
  • I-94 is parallel to I-80/I-90; three numbers for two roads. Reordered it to remove the use of parallel.
• "I-80/I-90 then continue southeast across the Maumee River to Rossford on the southern outskirts of Toledo, where it intersects I-75": tense is inconsistent. If "I-80/I-90" is singular, "continue" should be "continues", but if it's plural, "it intersects" should be "they intersect".
  • Fixed to remain singular.
• If Ohio finishes its last section in late 1978, how can there be unbroken highway from Wyoming to Boston in 1976?
  • The unbroken highway still had intersections, thus not making it a full freeway. Added a bit to clarify.
• Optional, but you might consider making the "Major intersections" section collapsible -- it's a reference table, not something to read through.
  • As other uses of the route junction list aren't collapsed, I don't think it would be necessary to do so here.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:26, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Thanks for the review! I've addressed all of your points to the best of my ability, though I will look around to see if the interactive maps issue can be fixed. SounderBruce 22:37, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Just the map point left. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:05, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I have replaced the interactive map with its previous static version for now. Will look around to bug people and fix the Great Lakes. SounderBruce 06:41, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Support. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:50, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Source review

Footnote numbers refer to this version.

• [22] is a dead link.
• [52] is dead.
• Suggest marking [87] with "|url-access=registration".
• Mark [134] as paywalled.

No other formatting errors; sources are reliable. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: All fixed. SounderBruce 20:19, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Pass. I see Imzadi1979 reverted your change to [87]; I definitely get a login screen when I go to that URL, but I'll let y'all sort it out. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:10, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

There's no registration required to use the archive. Due to the vagaries of how that archive works, direct links to specific documents don't work correctly. A reader would have to go to the search page first and search for a document before clicking a direct link, which would then load the desired document. I've changed the citation to point to the search page, because unfortunately the best way is to make people use the search form to find stuff. Imzadi 1979 → 22:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Comments by Steelkamp

• Could the meaning of the "Purple Heart Trail" be explained? Steelkamp (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Added.
• Can you link Lorain, Ohio? Steelkamp (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Done.
• From Lorain, Ohio,[136] through Pennsylvania and New York,[137] I-90 is officially designated as the "AMVETS Memorial Highway".[138] – The locations of those references could be rearranged. [137] only makes reference to Pennsylvania, not New York. Steelkamp (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Moved 137 to the end of the sentence.
• As per MOS:POSTABBR, {{abbr}} should be used for the state abbrieviations in the table near the top of the article. Steelkamp (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Done.
• city of Coeur d'Alene could be simplified to just Coeur d'Alene. Same applies to city of Mitchell. Steelkamp (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Both instances are meant to differentiate the subject; Lake Coeur d'Alene is mentioned immediately after for the first use, while "city of Mitchell" is meant to be presented as something different from the surrounding towns.
• Among these auto trails, which were generally designated by the private organizations – What does this mean? Steelkamp (talk) 16:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Fixed to remove "the" and add "motorist".

@Steelkamp: All addressed, except for the "city of" points. SounderBruce 20:02, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Support Steelkamp (talk) 02:09, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

• Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Ian Rose (talk) 21:08, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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