Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hermano Pule/archive1

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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 11 April 2019 [1].

Hermano Pule edit

Nominator(s): Jollibinay (talk) 09:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A Filipino religious leader in the 19th century who established a religious order as a protest against the racially discriminatory practices of the Catholic Church in the Spanish Philippines. Fearing an armed rebellion, the Spanish colonial government violently suppressed the order and had Hermano Pule executed.Jollibinay (talk) 09:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support by Jens Lallensack edit

Very good, interesting article. Only two little quibbles:

The cofradía prohibited Spaniards and mestizos from joining without Pule's permission – This is the only hint given in the body of the article that Pule was the leading figure of the cofradía. That he was the leader is mentioned in the lead, but it should be specifically mentioned in the body as well. Was he already leader when it was founded? Which role did he play in founding the cofradia? All this does not become entirely clear.
Mount Banahaw, continued – not sure, but I would go without a comma here. --Jens Lallensack (talk) 08:19, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jens Lallensack. Thanks for reviewing the article.

The cofradía prohibited Spaniards and mestizos from joining without Pule's permission – This is the only hint given in the body of the article that Pule was the leading figure of the cofradía. That he was the leader is mentioned in the lead, but it should be specifically mentioned in the body as well. Was he already leader when it was founded? Which role did he play in founding the cofradia? All this does not become entirely clear.

I can only write based on the sources that I've cited. However, please consider the following facts from the article: (1) Pule's letters were important to cofradía members that they had to be read aloud to the memebers. (2) He was the one who communicated with the Church and the State officials when he sought their recognition and authorization for the cofradía. (3) The cofradía had at least two large portraits of Pule stylized as a saint, which indicates that he was revered by them as a "saint". (4) The cofradía members wanted to crown him "King of the Tagalogs". The cofradía had other senior leaders, but it was he who they wanted to be king. (5) The Colonial Government offered amnesty to the members of the cofradía, with the exception of Hermano Pule and a few others. This suggests that the government knew he was a major figure in the movement. (6) The members of the revived cofradía claimed to have witnessed the alleged joint apparition of the Virgin of the Rosary, Hermano Pule, and Octavio Ygnacio "Purgatorio" de San Jorge. This signifies that Pule was an important figure in the cofradía; please also note that Octavio Ygnacio "Purgatorio" de San Jorge only led the cofradía when Pule was absent.

Mount Banahaw, continued – not sure, but I would go without a comma here.

Done.

--Jollibinay (talk) 12:20, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, supporting now! --Jens Lallensack (talk) 21:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources review edit

Ref 4: Publisher name should not be italicised
Ref 8: Returns "page not found"
Ref 16: Publisher information appears incomplete
Ref 38: p. range requires ndash not hyphen
Ref 38: Harvard error - there is no "Palad 2005" in the biblography
Ref 40: Returns error message
Ref 44: Publisher information missing

Overall, the sources appear to be well chosen, and are of the appropriate standards of quality and reliability. A limited spotchecking exercise produced no issues. Brianboulton (talk) 20:41, 12 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brianboulton. Thanks for reviewing the references of the article.

~~Ref 4: Publisher name should not be italicised~~

Done.

Ref 8: Returns "page not found"

Dead URL. Redirected it to its archive URL.

Ref 16: Publisher information appears incomplete

Tried to complete the publisher information, but can't find DOI.

~~Ref 38: p. range requires ndash not hyphen~~

Done.

~~Ref 38: Harvard error - there is no "Palad 2005" in the biblography~~

It was a typographical error. The correct is "Palad 2001a", which is found in the biblography.

Ref 40: Returns error message.

Dead URL. Redirected it to its archive URL.

Ref 44: Publisher information missing.

Added all the publisher information that I can find. The original URL is dead.

Jollibinay (talk) 20:30, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinator comment - This has been open for a solid month without much support for promotion, and doesn't seem to be heading in the right direction at present. Therefore, I will be archiving it shortly and it may be re-nominated after the customary two-week waiting period. --Laser brain (talk) 19:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. --Laser brain (talk) 19:21, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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