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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by Hog Farm via FACBot (talk) 12 June 2022 [1].

Herman the Archdeacon edit

Nominator(s): Dudley Miles (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about a man who did not have a Wikipedia article until recently even though he was important enough to have an Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article. Once I got into it, I found him a fascinating character. Mike Christie and Tim riley have given helpful feedback at Peer review. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Another fine article; I didn't have much to say at the peer review and have nothing to add now. How many Anglo-Saxon kings do you have left to bring to FAC, by the way? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:33, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks Mike. There are 9 Anglo-Saxon kings to go and 3 Danish. However, that includes Alfred the Great, which I have so far copped out of as it is such a mammoth project. Dudley Miles (talk) 08:38, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Image and source review—pass
  • Heavy reliance on Licence, but it looks like that's the main source that exists. I assume that the page numbers in Roman numerals are citing the introduction. No source checks done.
  • "Herman the Archdeacon... was probably born in Germany." The first sentence of an article usually summarizes the subject's importance. I would shift the birthplace information to the second paragraph and then add a paragraph break before "Herman was a colourful character". (t · c) buidhe 22:17, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Herfast came into conflict with Baldwin, abbot of Bury St Edmunds Abbey over" - comma needed after Abbey
  • "Lanfranc, the Archbishop of Canterbury sent an" - need a comma after Canterbury
  • "sent an angry letter to Herfast, demanding [....] and concluding by demanding" - any way to avoid using "demanding" twice in the same sentence?
  • "according to Licence, "was to" - there's no closing quote mark later in this sentence, so it's unclear where the direct quotation ends
  • That's all I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support from Tim riley edit

The few quibbles I had were thoroughly dealt with at the peer review, and on rereading the article I can find no more to carp about. It seems to me to meet all the FA criteria. A good read, well and widely sourced, balanced and comprehensive (as far as a layman can judge) and pleasingly illustrated. I look forward to seeing it on our front page. Tim riley talk 20:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - pass edit

The dead tree sources look good to me --Guerillero Parlez Moi 12:13, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Guerillero, just checking if this constitutes a source review pass? Gog the Mild (talk) 21:02, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Gog the Mild yes! - Guerillero Parlez Moi 08:31, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments by JennyOz edit

Hello Dudley, I have a few questions and suggested links...

  • conflict with Baldwin, abbot of Bury St Edmunds Abbey, - Abbey already linked in previous sentence
  • both minsters had an income - pipewlink Minster (church)
  • He occupied a senior position there, probably precentor, and perhaps from about 1095 prior - prior is unfortunate word, maybe a comma after 1095 would help?
  • The abbey's most important relics - wlink relics
  • important relics were the bloody undergarments of the saint - bloody sounds like fresh blood? Maybe bloodstained or bloodied? (Maybe just me.)
  • The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle records the defeat - wlink
  • an advanced knowledge of Latin - poss wlink Medieval Latin
  • He would have known both.
  • which included Grecicisms - poss link to Grecicisms
  • and neologisms...Herman's -- ellipsis per Mos? ie {{nbsp}}...
  • Done -seems a bit odd to me but no point in arguing with MOS. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • with his inner Christian". [25] Summarising - remove space before ref
  • miracle collection...Nor were its - ellipsis
  • institutional histories...Although - ellipsis
  • in English affairs...Herman's - ellipsis
  • abbacy of New Minster, Winchester for his father - add geocomma
  • her Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article - add italics
  • the records of Norwich Cathedral, nor - wlink
  • Note c fos.623–677 - add space per others
  • Ref 38 Licence 2014. -page number/s?
  • Winterbottom, Michael - editor-link Michael Winterbottom (academic)?
  • Cats - add Category:People from Bury St Edmunds?
  • Done - although I am not sure whether this is correct as he was not from Bury. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:32, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's all I could find to comment on. Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 03:41, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • All looks fine to me. Nice to meet you! Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 22:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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