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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted 00:05, 24 March 2008.

D. B. Cooper edit

I'm nominating this article for featured article because I believe it meets the featured article criteria. As some of you may know, D. B. Cooper is the infamous aircraft hijacker who jumped out of a Boeing 727 with $200,000, never to be seen again. He has been subject of many references in popular culture, and the FBI investigation of the Cooper case continues to this day. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 04:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Just the lead for now:
  • Link flying minutes?
  • No article exists. I can't find any other page that might be of relevance to flying minutes (airplane speed came to mind, but there's nothing about flying minutes there).
  • "found approximately $5,800 in decaying $20 bills that were uncovered on the banks" unless you mean that they weren't in a cover.
  • "Brian Ingram was eventually allowed to keep $2,860 of this money." - But is this sentence necessary for the lead at all?
  • "In October of 2007" can this be a new paragraph? It happened way after the previous clues. Or maybe from "The nature" begin the new para? I think logically that second paragraph should be two.
  • "The Cooper case (code-named "Norjak" by the FBI[5]) still remains an unsolved mystery."
  • "unsolved mystery" and then "unsolved case". The repetiton is unnecessary; i think the second "unsolved" can go.
indopug (talk) 06:24, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080101/ap_on_re_us/looking_for_cooper is a dead link
    • Current footnotes 25, 26, 29 and 30 are formatted differently ... consider switching the first three around so the page number is after the publisher and in 29 AP is italicised.
      • Fixed. Associated Press was supposed to be italicized. I accidentally used publisher= instead of work=, so one of the references showed unitalicized text. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 18:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • On the Benford and Johnson book, the Rightegous Carnage. Isn't iUniverse one of those self-publishing houses? What makes this a reliable source?
      • Yes, iUniverse is a self-publishing source. The source is only used to attribute the John List-D.B. Cooper connection, which is entirely related to the subject (criterion 5). It meets the other criteria of WP:SELFPUB. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 23:42, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • I'll take your word for it. (Everytime I delve into the self-publishing rules, my head swims!) Ealdgyth - Talk 00:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All other links check out fine. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:41, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose: sections that use {{main}} should summarise the article it links to (like a lede summarise the article it starts). Will (talk) 18:14, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've added that summary; but I'm not so sure a better approach wouldn't be to just kill that section and include a reference to the main article in the "See Also" section rather than using {{main}} at all. TJRC (talk) 01:48, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I have removed the section and added D. B. Cooper in popular culture to the "See also" section. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 03:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, my only objection has been addressed. Will (talk) 20:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I enjoyed this article so much I forgot to check for all the other stuff and even got distracted from watching basketball. That means it's definitely featured quality writing. I'd personally prefer a smart but brief summary of D.B. Cooper in popular culture, but am fine with it as a See also. --JayHenry (talk) 04:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Logical quotation should be used per Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Quotation marks. Epbr123 (talk) 00:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I included the period in the second quote, as that was how it was originally written in the news article. I wasn't sure whether the punctuation should be included within quote 3. The direct quote from US News online was: "'I got it jumping out of a plane,' Jo recalls him saying." Would the period be placed after or before the end quotation mark? Nishkid64 (Make articles, not love) 03:02, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • The quotations are all currently correct except for: "never admitted nor denied he was Cooper." This is a sentence fragment, so the punctuation belongs outside. Epbr123 (talk) 09:46, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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